Australia, a third world country.

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Originally Posted by AndyG

Who do you think should pay?
The govt?
The local users?
Other users who dont live in that area
The shareholders who expect a return on their capital

Someone somewhere has to pay

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Good point.

No idea is the answer to your question as i and most on here would have no idea how these towers or for that matter the whole mobile phone system operates.

Your answer to your own question would be good.[bighmmm]

It was only a suggestion due to safety issues.

If you have ever run a business,you would know the govt legislates things,not giving a rats about who pays or how much it costs.
And many things they legislate that have to be done are an unnecessary and absolute waste of time and money.

But in this instance,involving communication, its pretty important.

I won't go on,with respect to the OP, as i don't want to turn this thread into a political discussion.

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Originally Posted by AndyG

Why not require the wind farms/solar to store the surplus on their site until needed, why pass the burden to the distributor. And of course without more subsidies

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I was thinking more of surplus solar from houses generated in suburbs being stored locally and then released at night, keeping generation and supply local, so it's less affected by outages in networks and reducing the need to send power over long distances, with losses.

When I was in the job Telstra had to oblige to something called a Universal Service Obligation, A quick google shows me they still do. None of the other carriers have a mandatory USO , Telstra builds the supposed higher level of service into their price structure but on so many levels fail to meet their USO .

Universal Service Obligation | Department of Communications and the Arts

Telstra - Universal Service Obligation (USO) - Customer Service

USO only applied to landline.
and nolonger applies to telstra with the nbn in town.

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Originally Posted by scarry

Good point.

No idea is the answer to your question as i and most on here would have no idea how these towers or for that matter the whole mobile phone system operates.

Your answer to your own question would be good.[bighmmm]

It was only a suggestion due to safety issues.

If you have ever run a business,you would know the govt legislates things,not giving a rats about who pays or how much it costs.
And many things they legislate that have to be done are an unnecessary and absolute waste of time and money.

But in this instance,involving communication, its pretty important.

I won't go on,with respect to the OP, as i don't want to turn this thread into a political discussion.

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If the benefit is to be enjoyed by the local users, ie more reliable service, then i would suggest the local user should pay. Maybe because of where i work i have become inured to a user pay environment

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I was thinking more of surplus solar from houses generated in suburbs being stored locally and then released at night, keeping generation and supply local, so it's less affected by outages in networks and reducing the need to send power over long distances, with losses.

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Putting aside being devils advocate, i was actually thinking the same thing the other day. We have a 315 kva transformer, in our street. The logical place for a reasonable battery pack?. But saying that transformers dont work in reverse? So local grid only at a central location? Or keep the power at home?

Hardly think Australia is third world...

Reliable comms isn’t high on my priority, although I don’t own a business that relies on phone and/or internet 24/7.....

Other than that a lot of the places I camp doesn’t have reception, actually some of my places of work doesn’t have reception but we seem to get by.

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Originally Posted by AndyG

But saying that transformers dont work in reverse?

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Yes they do and is the reason why household PV systems can export power, although some outer HV configurations have needed re-working to accommodate feed-in from those outer areas to maintain suitable operating voltages.

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Originally Posted by AndyG

Thata a Huwai project, i expect it hss been blocked for security reasons

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it does seem OZ has a problem with Huwai,,
as for blocked,, no one seems to have told our local Council,,

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Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

it does seem OZ has a problem with Huwai,,
as for blocked,, no one seems to have told our local Council,,

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Australia blocks Huawei bid to lay Solomon Islands cables - Computerworld
I believe this is part of the same deal, in addition Australia has stopped Huawei doing PNG. Although Huawei is still doing the internal cables to the provinces . Interesting in the last year they have run power cables from Kimbe to Bialla to power up the rural areas. Alas no power to feed in, one day maybe. There is a fourth cable on top that is both lightening arrestor and fibre link, that goes from nowhere to another nowhere, at least nbn plugs into something