Dogs in national parks

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Originally Posted by LRJim

Uhhh yerp..what my wife shows me on facebook still blows me away.
This is in vic, it was over one weekend https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6ca6450162.jpg

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Okay..thanks...now I understand. These sorts of kill numbers are only obtained when a team and/or teams of shooters operating under the various Controlled Pest Management Programs administered either by the Field and Game Association, Australian Deer Association or the Sporting Shooters Association of Australia - Victoria. No individual shooter could manage to take the large numbers you have depicted.

Operating as a lone hunter I can't recall how many foxes I have taken in a day but plenty. Wild dogs are very much a different - aka difficult - proposition to foxes and my best is three in an afternoon which is quite a respectable take.

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Originally Posted by Grumbles

Okay..thanks...now I understand. These sorts of kill numbers are only obtained when a team and/or teams of shooters operating under the various Controlled Pest Management Programs administered either by the Field and Game Association, Australian Deer Association or the Sporting Shooters Association of Australia - Victoria. No individual shooter could manage to take the large numbers you have depicted.

Operating as a lone hunter I can't recall how many foxes I have taken in a day but plenty. Wild dogs are very much a different - aka difficult - proposition to foxes and my best is three in an afternoon which is quite a respectable take.

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Dont necessarily have to be organised by F&G, plenty of farmers and ranchers will organize it themselves we have a few regulars we get calls from. But I hear were you are coming from which was besides the point, it wasnt about how many 1 hunter can knock over in a day. It was about how many ferals are actually out there over a small area and a photo like that really shows how bad the problem is, and honestly thats still nothing compare to other parts of the country.
Do you go out with dogs or go out and whistle?

Of course......my apols.....I completely forgot about the locally organised informal type pest drives. For some perspective though what do you mean by a small area? Everyone has a different interpretation of what small means.

LRJim Q - Do you go out with dogs or go out and whistle? - UQ.


I am confining my response to wild dogs here because that is where my interest is focused.


I go out with one dog......a King Charles Cavalier Spaniel. He tells me if the wild dogs have been around. Once that is established then I howl them in just by using my own vocal chords.


It can be very difficult to find a wild dog though. Their home range varies from 45 square km up to 125 square km. In one survey one tagged wild dog travelled 230km in 9 days before returning to its home range and another travelled 105km in 87 days.


Interesting isn't it........


Cheers.

A couple of thoughts ...

Right or wrong, where the law says no dogs it should be obeyed. If you think that a law (such as no dogs in NP) is restrictive or incorrect or misconceived then by all means seek its amendment, but in the interim obey it. Just obeying the laws you agree with or aren't inconvenienced by is wrong and a very slippery slope. Or, if you really, really object to a law then don't obey it but don't also whinge when you get booked - that's the price of your beliefs.

And if you do have a dog in an NP, control it - about 20 years ago I was coming off Mt Bogong. Some people had camped at Mountain Creek, pretty much across the track. As I walked through a blue heeler lunged at me - one of the campers grabbed it by the collar. So, I stopped and told them that if they were going to bring a dog into an NP they should at least ensure that it wasn't a risk to other people. And if it was so aggressive that it needed to be held by the collar when someone was legitimately using a walking track then it needed to be on a chain. I got death stares from all of them.

And, I must admit that I thought that all national parks were managed by the Commonwealth, but I've just discovered that's not the case.

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Originally Posted by Grumbles

100 - 200 foxes and wild dogs in a day.....Really???

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Difficult to believe,definitely not in Qld,but i presume the pic is down south somewhere.

I have done a lot of shooting in many areas of Qld,and that many in a day is stretching the imagination.....

Pigs,yes,but not foxes.

I am with the others,cats are just as much a pest as foxes.

We find that regular baiting for dogs,reduces both cat and fox numbers as well.

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Originally Posted by LRJim

Uhhh yerp..what my wife shows me on facebook still blows me away.
This is in vic, it was over one weekend https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6ca6450162.jpg

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The stench of 200 dead fox`s would be horrendous in this heat :no2:.
Mind you that is now 200 we no longer have to worry about :rocket:

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Originally Posted by rangieman

The stench of 200 dead fox`s would be horrendous in this heat :no2:.
Mind you that is now 200 we no longer have to worry about :rocket:

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Ohh yeah would stank!
Near the block there was a fenceline where they hang em up, well over 60 foxes last time we stopped and counted. They kept adding a few every weekend, stank a bit but it wasnt 40° it was in winter.

Cheers Jim

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Do humans serve any real purpose, in context we could ask the same question about us? We are the most destructive of all animals.

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I recommend that the poster read Jordan Peterson's book "12 Rules for Life" as to the implications of having this attitude.
I realise that it is probably said in jest but if serious , it is concerning.

Regards Philip A

Got back from holidays last week and there was a new cat hanging around our street. It looked pretty thin, so we fed it. It then pretty much made itself at home on our back porch. Had a collar but no rego tag or phone number. We asked around and did a door knock and confirmed that it didn't belong to anyone in our street. Rang the local vet and arranged to take it in to have the microchip checked. Took it in and they looked surprised and said oh, this cat came in last week as a stray and the owner hadn't even noticed that he was gone. Checked the microchip and yeah, the same cat.

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Originally Posted by LRJim

Since having the suburbs built on my boundary weve been getting cats, had a few wild ones that I've picked off. The last one terrorised my birds while i was away and gave them a heart attack...got him 2nd night i was home. He was a young fetal but he was huge! Driving around last night I spotted 2 really young cats running around the old wheat field, both ran to the same house and both had collars on. People just dont get it, they live next to a farm and let their cats roam around or let them go stray. Same for people living near parks they continue to let their cats out. My wife has a cat who only comes out with her when she does the animals and he stays with her, all other times hes locked in the house.
Cheers Jim

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There are feral cats around that are a metre long from tip of nose to tip of tail. When I was a kid I was out shooting one evening and saw a neighbours cat sauntering across one of our paddocks having just crossed in from the neighbour's place. If it was clear that it was a feral I'd've just shot it, but I thought it probably belonged to the neighbours. So I put a .22 bullet about a foot in front of his nose. I doubt he came back.

And, in case you're wondering, there were no houses in the direction I was shooting for about 10ks and the next road was about 1400m away.