maybe you should take a look at the temp readings again. and then you;ll find my post was in jest :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
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maybe you should take a look at the temp readings again. and then you;ll find my post was in jest :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
And 1890 and 1893 were far higher than 1974.
I can remember being at a function in the motel opposite Parliament house in Brisbane and remember seeing marks on the wall on the ground floor indicating the 1890 and 1893 flood levels.
The marks were about 9feet up the wall whereas in the 1974 flood the ground floor was not affected.
The Victoria Bridge was washed away in 1890 and AFAIR again in 1893.
The Queensland navy was marooned in the Gardens in 1890 and refloated in 1893.
My wife's cousin owned a house in Fig Tree Pocket that was completely submerged for 3 days in 1974.
Regards PhilipA
So, you are on public record saying that you do not think climate change is an issue, in these fires, or any future ones? BTW, the 1974 floods had more to do with Seqwater releasing millions of tons of water from the dams, at the wrong time , compounding the problem. Try as I might, I can't find where any one has posted that the floods were due to climate change. Drought, on the other hand..... As for Flinders his first voyage on the Reliance to Moreton Bay and Hervey Bay accompanied by his younger brother Samuel, even though he spent 15 days in Moreton Bay, he didn't find the Brisbane River. He reported that" no river of importance intersected the East Coast between the 24th and 39th degrees of south latitude". In fact no rivers up that way were found by seaward exploration; they were discovered by inland travellers. Flinders interaction with aborigines in Moreton Bay consisted of trying to fire his gun at one who had thrown a spear at him. His gun misfired twice, but discharged on the third attempt, making a lot of noise, but hitting no one. The Reliance sprung a leak two days out from Port Jackson, on the way north, and grains of maize kept choking up the pump. I think relying on the testimony of explorers such as these on such things as floods or fires is , considering most of their effort was expended simply trying to stay afloat, and not run aground in Moreton Bay, tenuous, to say the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by V8Ian
An amusing aside as to how things never change presents itself, when two Scotsman tried to lighten the tension between aboriginals and Flinders by doing a comedic version of the Highland fling. No one laughed, Scotsmen seem to have that effect on people.
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Originally Posted by rick130
How Murdoch murdered climate policy. Even Credlin says it was a stitchup.
Michael Pascoe: How Murdoch’s myrmidons murdered climate policy How Murdoch’s ink-stained imps killed climate sanity
The long term trend is clear in climate change.
Average global temperature is up about 1 degree since 1910, mostly since 1950.
That's why the country is drier and burns more dangerously than in the past.
This is not about belief, it's just fact.
Cause and Effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
In this instance the links appear direct but they are not.
Drought conditions, excessive fuel sources, inappropriate building permissions granted. All these have contributed to poorer outcomes for Australians.
Yes, there are changes in Climatic conditions - these do not directly lead to firestorms. Every year I’ve been up North the ground is struck with lightening. Fuel on the ground drives the outcomes.
Better management of the habitat, better planning of where housing can be located, better land management all can reduce the hazards and loss.
I dunno.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
I think the severity and length of drought, hotter than average temps, etc its not unreasonable to draw a direct link
More severe drought =more dead vegetation = hotter fires. That's about as direct a link as its possible to get.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick130
It's worse on the coast where there is more vegetation to die and burn.
Not hard to rustle up a couple of links, dryness and temp will do it every time:Quote:
Originally Posted by rick130
Climate Maps - Rainfall Latest
Climate Maps - Temperature Latest
Funny how the fires fit with dry and warm. Plenty of forest to the west that isn't burning even though there's been plenty of lightning strikes. I still view the dryness and temp as natural variability but some of the biased media is doing it's best to get me to be rational. [wink11]
DL
We shouldn't have had the fires we had here on the north coast as it's wet and rain forest.
It shouldn't burn!
Ergo, you can't hazard reduction burn in a 'normal' season anyway, it's too wet...
But we were almost 900mm down on average rainfall last year, and that's not a typo!