Climate Change and our Land of Fire, Flood and Drought.

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

So how is it if solar and wind are cheaper than coal, that nobody seems to want to invest in it until subsidies are increased AGAIN.
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I'm always sus about this kind of topic.
Hypothetical:
Firstly, if I were in the business, I'd also want as many $s handed out to me for investing in any projects .. NOW!
The fear would be that if I invested now and not receive a subsidy, what would be the governments intention in a few years time in terms of new subsidy plans that would allow other businesses to capitalise on this future situation.
That would put my current investment with no subsidy at a disadvantage compared to future investments with a subsidy.

This is why it's so important that governments stop 'p*ss farting' around and have a set plan for X amount of years, and not continually undo previous government efforts.

The main issue is storage. Still no large scale storage efforts of any note to make the renewables actually usable for long term.

eg. either proper battery storage(or hydro), or (as is being predicted by some) that hydrogen as a key future energy source ... then get this industry going via subsidies.
We know that hydrogen is currently inefficient in terms of production to usage, but if excess renewable power can be directed to produce hydrogen, irrespective that it's inefficient.
The excess renewable electricity has to go somewhere, so instead of calling on companies to waste it doing literally nothing, then excess renewables directed into producing hydrogen doesn't seem so inefficient.

The issue is, as always, a lack of foresight from gubberments.
Not the technology used, or the multinationals corporations concern for profitability.

Ha Ha, I used to live in Bangkok, where the minimum was always higher than the maximum in Brisbane, so I know all about living in hot places.

As for the lack of government planning, the link below is a summary of the situation from that well-known hotbed of radicalism, the Parliament of Australia, which explains it far better than I can.

Renewable energy policy: retreat, renewal and revitalisation?

– Parliament of Australia

https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/conspiracists-say-lasers-and-exploding-smart-meters-used-to-start-bushfires-to-make-way-for-a-new-train-network/news-story/24f154722befb3b3c20b748e3336ea19


Interesting theories. If true it would make some sense in the East of Oz.

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Originally Posted by 4bee

Bushfire, high-speed rail: Worrying popularity of weird bushfire conspiracy

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Far out. And these people are breeding?

I be willing to wager some hard earned that a few of them would claim to have been subject to an alien probe or two!

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Originally Posted by Eevo

feels like a religion.

they want us to believe in something based upon blind faith
they want money from us
they want us to change our lives to suit their beliefs.

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jeez Eevo you've just explained christianity.....

42c is the highest average temperature that human beings can live in without support

the body can no longer keep the internal organs cool enough.

if they are living in a protected environment vis air conditioned housing they can endure short bouts in those temperatures.

this is medical fact

So what. Where on the face of this earth are there average temps of 42.
Next to a lava lake perhaps.

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Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

42c is the highest average temperature that human beings can live in without support

the body can no longer keep the internal organs cool enough.

if they are living in a protected environment vis air conditioned housing they can endure short bouts in those temperatures.

this is medical fact

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I'm glad I didn't know that gem when I lived/worked in the Pilbara. I'd never have survived. :eek2:

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Originally Posted by V8Ian

I'm glad I didn't know that gem when I lived/worked in the Pilbara. I'd never have survived. :eek2:

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Sounds like Summer working just out of Coober Pedy...

We spent most of our days working in it, then sitting around drinking and talking BS in the cooler part of the evening..