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    So, I have a challenge, You are appointed the king of Sydney and cancel the NYE fireworks. How will you spend that $6m in order to make a measurable difference in climate change. I'm not trolling (promise) but one of the most frustrating parts of this debate is that I have yet to hear a single change that people can make to cause a positive effect. Portraying Australia as some sort of a leader does not count as no one else in the world takes any notice of us anyway.

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    Pointless exercise, really.
    Garnaut is right that this country could become an economic superpower if we got smarter about embracing the many jobs adapting to climate change is already creating. Renewables create a lot of jobs, but they could create a lot more if we made more stuff here, not just panels, but the electronics and other equipment.
    And I haven't even mentioned hydrogen yet. Just as we are now the world's biggest LNG exporter, we could also create a massive hydrogen industry. Japan is showing the way.
    And our battery industry has huge potential to expand, as do many others.
    Instead, we seem to run by people who think the height of our innovative abilities is to use 80% of Queensland's landmass to graze cows, often at such a low density as one animal per hectare, creating massive areas of degraded wasteland. What a waste!
    Truly, we have to get a lot, lot smarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANDLOVER View Post
    It's not all gloom and doom as Ross Garnaut points out in his new book "Superpower" Superpower by Ross Garnaut | Black Inc.

    "‘The fog of Australian politics on climate change has obscured a fateful reality: Australia has the potential to be an economic superpower of the future post-carbon world.’—Ross Garnaut
    You know, this is how I saw Australia progressing when I arrived in 2003. Convinced , but clearly naive.

    It's been a political **** show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Pointless exercise, really.
    Garnaut is right that this country could become an economic superpower if we got smarter about embracing the many jobs adapting to climate change is already creating. Renewables create a lot of jobs, but they could create a lot more if we made more stuff here, not just panels, but the electronics and other equipment.
    And I haven't even mentioned hydrogen yet. Just as we are now the world's biggest LNG exporter, we could also create a massive hydrogen industry. Japan is showing the way.
    And our battery industry has huge potential to expand, as do many others.
    Instead, we seem to run by people who think the height of our innovative abilities is to use 80% of Queensland's landmass to graze cows, often at such a low density as one animal per hectare, creating massive areas of degraded wasteland. What a waste!
    Truly, we have to get a lot, lot smarter.
    Garnaut has no understanding of economics. Who's going to buy products manufactured by paid employees, when the competition utilises prison and slave labour?
    If you don't like trucks, stop buying stuff.
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    There may be a break in the drought from late Autumn 2020. Hopefully

    http://www.nacp.org.au/static/climat...ok_2019-11.pdf
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Garnaut has no understanding of economics. Who's going to buy products manufactured by paid employees, when the competition utilises prison and slave labour?
    Numerous Australian companies are designing and manufacturing here and exporting. For example, look at the 4WD companies who now do most of their sales overseas. Or Cochlear Ear or ResMed as world leaders in their fields. Or Australian education, now this country's number four export earner.
    What's needed is real leadership to encourage more innovation and development.
    Instead, all we get is more of the outdated 'fatten it up or dig it up and ship it out' mentality. It assumes anything else is too hard, when it's not. It's just a failure of leadership.

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    The World's biggest wind energy producer is moving into Australia. It's a start.


    The world's biggest wind energy producer is moving into Australia with a hybrid solar and wind farm in SA
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    It's just a failure of leadership.
    As I have said "Too many factions in Govt & opposition"


    They are their own worst enemies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Garnaut has no understanding of economics. Who's going to buy products manufactured by paid employees, when the competition utilises prison and slave labour?
    Actually I’d suggest he’s pretty good with economics and knows nothing about climate.

    His “trade” is economics, not a Scientist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Actually I’d suggest he’s pretty good with economics and knows nothing about climate.

    His “trade” is economics, not a Scientist.
    Is he going to convince anybody to buy Australian manufactured goods over cheap Chinese equivalents?
    If you don't like trucks, stop buying stuff.
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