How altruistic of you Trog.
How altruistic of you Trog.
Don't tell the Chinese it can't be done. Australia, the white trash of Asia. Did I mention banana republic?
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It would totally stuff up the rich coastal farming and environmental areas, and deprive the Great Barrier Reef of land flows, so as the coastal forests dried out, the population might get rather annoyed and demand their water back.
I agree the Snowy scheme certainly is only medium sized by world standards. Look at Tasmania. The hydro scheme powering Yangon in Myanmar, with multiple power stations along the same river, is also impressive. Built with Japanese and Chinese money as war reparations.
hopefully those waters will have made their way to Kati Thanda by the time I'm there in April.
although there will be no wildflowers , there will be enormous flocks of bird life as the lake takes on water.
You are suggesting the total water flow from the North would go South. Not so. Something similar to the ORD river scheme, with a massive water storage , and distribution , should do.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
I have spare water, help yourself , i do have a severe shortages of bridges, they seem to be missing
Rainfall Data 2019 Plantation Jan Feb Total Hargy 1,151 1,508 2,658 mm Navo 1,742 1,922 3,663 mm Barema 966 1,781 2,747 mm Bakada 998 1,445 2,444 mm
Maybe tell the Chinese it shouldn't be done?Quote:
Originally Posted by bob10
There are apparently, three of these projects. The one you posted the propaganda video for (complete with typos) is the Central route to supply Beijing. I don't know if you've been to Beijing but it's literally in the desert. Putting to one side the forced relocation of 330,000 people for this route, the taking of water from farmers and industry along the way, the environmental impact, the impact on the Han River and doubtless other impacts, it might just have been better and cheaper for Beijing to focus on water conservation.
Bluntly, there's nothing in these projects that Australia can learn from, other than what to avoid doing. As an example, we spent a lot of money on the Ord River Scheme and how did that work out?
Build a hwy in China you move thousands of people, and typos from Chinese to English can be understood. As for your assertions, produce facts. The Ord River scheme has worked out very well, with some early problems, granted. Magpie geese got the rice, [ same as in Darwin, so some one should have known] Bugs got the cotton, mainly because the government refused permission to grow GM modified cotton. GM modified cotton is now available, the only stumbling block is cotton has to be transported to the nearest cotton gin in QLD. Moves are afoot to build a cotton gin in the Ord area, which will see commercial growing and processing of cotton go ahead. Over the years farmers tried to grow commercial profitmaking crops, but were held back by a lack of government incentives, and planning . The mining industry was an easier way to put money in to government coffers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arapiles
The Ord Scheme has been going for over 55 years, and still the infrastructure necessary for transporting product to market is holding it back. Some farmers, frustrated by the lack of progress, have left. Others have soldiered on, and have had success in growing crops. Any way, some facts for you to look over, both negative, and more importantly, positive.
The Ord River Irrigation Scheme - Charting a Course for Economic Success - Future Directions International
EDIT,....I believe the developers chosen to move the Ord forward are Chinese.
The WA government called for a request for proposal for investors to take up development and farm the new expanded farming areas of Ord Stage Two. Kimberley Agricultural Investment (KAI), a wholly owned subsidiary of Shanghai Zhongfu Group, is the appointed developer. KAI has been building new farms consistently since 2013 and has now invested $200million in the region and assembled 25,000ha of new land to be developed.
China ... the highways I've been on in China were empty. And that was on the highway to the Great Wall.Quote:
Originally Posted by bob10
In relation to producing facts, you pretty much already did it! As you say, the basic issue is that it's not near anything so transport is always going to be a problem.
The other issue is that as far as I'm aware, none of the Ord water is used other than locally. Someone suggested piping it to SA and Victoria, but that would be a very, very long pipe.
KAI are apparently planning to clear 3,000 hectares on a station they bought, which probably won't do down well.
Edit: the report you linked to suggests 26,000 hectares is "to be developed", which suggests some environmental issues ....
Does the Australia Institute's scathing report on Ord Irrigation Scheme add up? - ABC Rural - ABC News