We had our flue jabs today and at our age why would we want to chance Not getting the shots[thumbsupbig]
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We had our flue jabs today and at our age why would we want to chance Not getting the shots[thumbsupbig]
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Same here. Just got mine last week. As I'm in my 60's and get oublic transport and work in a place with thousands of students it's prudent to get it. Everyone (unless they have prior known problems with the modern vaccine) should get one as the effectivness increases once most of the population is immunised.
Mike
People are only tested for the flu if they are already sick when they front the doctor, so if more people are tested it means more people are already sick.
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Great link. I followed through to see who the Board of Directors are and what they do;Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
"We create awareness and provide evidence-based information.
We provide educational resources. All our materials are provided free of intellectual property.
We hold scientific meetings and educational forums on Influenza and adult vaccination."
Mike
Your right of course on several facts Shane. Its well known that the most people with the flu are not tested meaning the cases reported are well under the cases reported.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
About 16 million were slaughtered by WW1, Just after that, 50 to 100 million people died from Flu http://1918 influenza pandemic (January 1918 – December 1920 "life expectancy in the United States dropped by about 12 years" for that two year period due to the numbers killed. When the 50 to 100 million people died from Flu many times that number got very sick from the flu but survived.
This morning a very high level Virologist suggested unusual very high number of summer flu cases suggest their is a rather alarming Change to the virus(s) On the brighter side a new joint pneumovax/flu vax has been developed by some very bright Australian scientist. ABC Am link Associate Professor Ian McKay might be worth listening to?
It is entirely possible virus are a lot more able to adapt than many give them credit for.
We must be due for another "super bug" at some point. ie: a new virus there is almost no herd immunity too. It will spread around the world within a few short weeks given airline travel if it has any sort of decent incubation period.Quote:
Originally Posted by NavyDiver
There is some extraordinarily intelligent people out there ... that should be listened to. They are often hard to discern from the vocal majority that have business interests.
There isn't much doubt in my mind the flu jab IS a good idea. The only issue with it is trying to figure out which strains of which known viruses to include in it. We simply leave that to people that are far smarter than me to work out (I'm just someone that tinkers on computers for a living).
I will have a listen to Ian Mckay when I get a chance. I must be getting old. Never in my life have I listened to "boring academic stuff". However recently I have found anything Jordan Peterson talks about absolutely fascinating (regardless of the topic. He even believes in religion which I find quite amazing for someone that is obviously far smarter than 1000 of me combined would be).
seeya,
Shane L.
Measles is making a comeback because people are refusing to be vaccinated. I read that if the measles vaccination rate false below about 75% a major measles epidemic becomes quite likely because of the large numbers of infected carriers going around spreading it to everyone they meet. Hope that's wrong. Meanwhile maybe we should avoid visiting Byron Bay.
I don't think that there is a magic number, but epidemiologists talk about 95% being what we should aim for, and that below 90% they start to get worried. quite a few communities in Australia are in the low 80s. Measles is one of the most infectious known diseases, so once the rate drops below a critical figure, probably in the 80s, an epidemic becomes almost certain.
Yes, this WHO site says they are aiming for 90% first round vaccination and 80% second round. Its a horrible disease and there is no antivirus treatment, so if you get it there isn't much can be done. Most die from complications.
Personally, and this is admittedly a strong view, I think parents who refuse to have their children vaccinated against these diseases are guilty of child neglect.
Measles