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One of my sons recently bought a new Kluger,it also drives very well.Five year warranty,unlimited k's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meccles
I was actually amazed how well it goes.
And i recon as quiet,if not quieter than the D4.
He recons its longer than an LC200,but doesn't seem huge at all.
I still tell them,when i was your age,the HZ wagon was all we had........[bigsad]
Wind up windows,no air,no power steering,3 speed traumatic,blah,blah.
Yes,they get sick of the same old line[biggrin]
"....didn't put diesel in, only chaff & water." We do tend to have long memories or short ones, depending on one's age, don't we?
Wind up windows???? We never had windows just holes in the canvas sides & roof. Or were they rips & tears?
If one kicked the tyres you could break 5 toes on the steel ones.
Ah, happy days.[smilebigeye]
you were a flash yuppie family with an auto transmission.Quote:
Originally Posted by scarry
The HZ were reliable though. No mysterious electronic boxes to fail in the middle of nowhere. Repairs to Kettering ignition and single barrel carbs could be done with basic tools anywhere.
MY 72 LJ Torana quite happily ran Sydney-Brisbane under 12 hours on crap roads and returned 30 mpg. Can all electronic singing and dancing modern cars say the same?
3 types of people you should never trust in life
real estate agents
politicians
dealerships
Have a good read of what is covered in the warranty the Hyundai's have a 5 year warranty but the paint is only covered for 3 years. My daughter when she bought her I30 never got the paint protection & when the vehicle was just over 4 years old the clear coat started lifting off all the plastic exterior parts , door handles , rear vision mirrors & dust deflector on the top of the rear hatch. Dealer pointed out the paint was only covered for 3 years. She didn't bother having the paint fixed & kept it for another year & traded it on a nother Hyundai. This will be her 5th Hyundai . I think Hyundai had a problem with the red paint that year , a friend of ours had an Elantra same colour & year it had same problem as daughters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meccles
I do think having the paint protection done is worth the extra money though.
When my Defender was still under warranty I suspected some things on the service invoice were not being done. On the final service I proved they had not removed the wheels by marking the nuts. The invoice cleary stated "Removed road wheels and applied antisieze to hub spigots". The also said they flushed the brake fluid. The proof being, according to the manager, I had been invoiced for 2 litres of fluid
When I challenged the service manager he said the work was carried out and he had video evidence. " we video all our services". My response apart from amazement was OK lets watch a video together. After a conversation between the bloke in a suit and a bloke in overalls they acknowleged there had been an oversight! They asked if I could wait while they sorted it out. No thanks, and Ive not been back to them or their associated dealerships since
A short while later I got a service rating questionaire form Landrover. I gave them an honest evaluation:bat:
Drove my 77 RRC down from Sunny Coast to Melb that brought all memories back 🤣had to use my noise cancelling headphones as wind noise and transfer case whine were so noisy. Though missing trim didn’t help. And wind up windows well my right arm got a workout on Drivers window [emoji3]Quote:
Originally Posted by 4bee
Took them a while to get them there tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigbjorn
HQ, maybe one of the worst.
three on the tree mechanism that would always jam up. For a spring chicken with no idea, the car was just broken and wouldn't go .. fix was to pop under bonnet and free it up by hand. Once that was known, the spring chicken was more self reliant on getting home.
Still didn't make it 'reliable' tho .. an constant problem.
Then a front wishbone fell to earth .. on a HQ that meant straight to SimsMetal. couple of hundred to repair a couple of hundred dollar car pole of junk .. nah! Simsmetal it was.
Funnily enough a mate in highschool later had the same wishbone catastrophe in his .. I think he had a HX or HZ. He kept it going tho, as he invested a lot in his stereo!
memory lane!Quote:
Originally Posted by Meccles
'79 here, and screaming noise got unbearable for me after a couple of years(and way too many country kilometers per year).
First I got some original carpets and used extra underlay. No good. minimal help.
But then I got some foamy sheet used for sound proofing, stick on. removable floor made that easy. On top of this 20mm foam, I also added more a foil lined heavy bitumen stuff, but had to stick it with glue .. can't remember the exact stuff, mate was a carpet layer and he got me some contact adhesive that needed heat. Bloody awesome! Not ideal compared to modern cars of the time(about early 90's) but cut gearbox scream(whine is too soft a word to describe it) .. maybe 75% of it.
centre diff or a gear or whatever then died a year or so later .. and decided to do an LT77/LT230 change, plus floor and some internal centre console bling. More foam and bitumen stuff also added, and turned the old screamer into a dream. Zero noise from gearbox now.
Only reason I chose to abandon it were the kids. 2 door was too hard for a cripple(like me) to get them in safely. so it was semi abandoned .. and then abandoned more and more. dual cab ute was much easier for me and kids.
RRC finally sold after sitting about 5 years at parents place, and needed to be moved for some building. Went to start it(started first go, no battery just a jumper lead jump [thumbsupbig]) but sitting in the seat and foot straight through the floor. no floor, barely any rust either .. just a large hole with rust around the edges. car sold for next to nothing.
I should have taken to a dealer to get sorted! By the sounds of it from above posts .. I reckon they'd have charged 100K pounds sterling to sort it for me!
The HZ did replace the HQ ute,that was three on the tree,drum brakes.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigbjorn
And it used to love to jam in neutral at the most inconvenient times.A quick hit of the linkages under the bonnet and All was good again for a few months.[biggrin]
Correct,those vehicles were nice and simple and easy to fix.Removing the emission control systems was the best mod.
The HZ was pretty heavy on fuel,but the HQ,I fitted a higher ratio diff,and it then ran on on the smell of an oily rag,particularly on a run.
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Originally Posted by Eevo
So right, especially if the Local member is also an Estate Agent & a Dealer. Ya know fingers in many pies?[bigsad]