Conspiracy Theories - The new Utterly Ridiculous Thread or is it?

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Originally Posted by 4bee

Thanks Sash, so not my wild imagination at all then?:TakeABow: Multiply that by a couple/few thousand world wide per day. Probably more.

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apparently quite simple ,he looks afer ports and electric companies, they use old computer language apparently but can be easier to check if been "modified". usually simple to bypass a "secure system" get someone who works somewhere and has a drug habit, free drugs for the hack/ inside knowledge but can lead to problems...................... hence the sophistication of a remote hack, less human problems, logical if you are a criminal.

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Originally Posted by sashadidi

apparently quite simple ,he looks afer ports and electric companies, they use old computer language apparently but can be easier to check if been "modified". usually simple to bypass a "secure system" get someone who works somewhere and has a drug habit, free drugs for the hack/ inside knowledge but can lead to problems...................... hence the sophistication of a remote hack, less human problems, logical if you are a criminal.

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The bastards have certainly made it harder for us crims (joke [biggrin]) these days but at the same time easier.

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Originally Posted by 4bee

Thanks Sash, so not my wild imagination at all then?:TakeABow: Multiply that by a couple/few thousand world wide per day. Probably more.

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I don't understand. Is this the first time you've heard of these ways that people have been smuggling drugs? ? Smuggling contraband via cargo ships has been going on since they existed. It wasn't those companies smuggling drugs in that example, it was the mafia using them to smuggle their own drugs with a corrupt helper on the inside. The cargo companies where probably spewing they only charged them express flatrate

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Originally Posted by shwza

I don't understand. Is this the first time you've heard of these ways that people have been smuggling drugs? ? Smuggling contraband via cargo ships has been going on since they existed. It wasn't those companies smuggling drugs in that example, it was the mafia using them to smuggle their own drugs with a corrupt helper on the inside. The cargo companies where probably spewing they only charged them express flatrate

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No of course it isn't shwza, & this topic is only one of a couple that gav brought up as examples. Call it getting to the Nitty Gritty if you like.


I used to attend International Cargo Sheds & wharves when I was kid when my old Dad was a Tally Clerk but was too naive to even think about these things & anything I may have noticed, would not have crossed my mind as being a bit dodgy, just normal activity on a wharf & I most certainly wouldn't have asked Pater.[smilebigeye] Also probably trying to dodge the Lister Auto Trucks. Blokes skylarking & grabbing each other's nads as they did could have easily been a method of passing Drugs if they were hung like an Elephant's trunk but as far I was concerned he was giving his mate a good natured "Gotcha".
Later in life one tends to notice & question those same things.

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Originally Posted by 4bee

Let me ask you in reverse.

Do you honestly believe some Govts wouldn't these days especially ME ones., given the right circumstances & their clandestine motives. C'mon Gav, I know you are not that naive as most of your posts are really clear & well thought through.


As for the grounding it does seem a bit crap but let's wait & see what the Fez Wearers come up with although for me I wouldn't be holding my breath on honesty from there.

They may not have expected a delay so when some poor bastard opens up a few containers in Antwerp & a heap of corpses tumble out "OOOPS RUMBLED! "How did that happen?" they'd say. I can hear Manuel from Fawlty Towers,"I KNOW NOTHING MR Fawlty I know nothing."
Not for the first time it wouldn't have happened either.
EG. Carry it on a bit further. ie. Container Marshalling Yard handling thousands of containers from world wide, Corrupt officials again, Trucks with vans. Job done. That ship apparently was carrying about a thousand or two thousand (??) containers so how precise are they checked for compliance? Just need to miss one or two with obvious distinct markings for "Clearance no security inspection required" Corruption again.! When containerisation first commenced who could have possibly thought they would be able to carry so many back then?
100 seemed more likely.

Would be a nice little earner on top of freight charges which may have been operating at a huge loss. No, sorry Gav, while I respect your opinion I cannot trust big business & Govts anymore. You can if you wish & good luck with that.

Re nukes. as I understand it, they can be just in a wooden box & not Scanned or Declared for radioactivity by said corrupt officials. The case wouldn't necessarily have NUCLEAR BOMB HANDLE WITH CARE. DO NOT DROP., ink stencil-led on it in 150mm high numbers either. Essential parts could be added later. "Machinery Parts" seems to be a popular mask these days.
It doesn't even have to look like a traditional bomb with fins just a box with "Do not open under any circumstances" That would be enough to put me off.

Ridicule me if you like but that is what I believe could happen in today's world. But I don't believe I am wrong.

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I don't trust big business or governments but I don't believe for a second either of these things would happen with the carriers knowledge. Could there be drugs or people in a container - wouldn't be the first time no, but the nut jobs I've looked at on line claim the ships hull is empty and there are 1000's of people in there and the containers on top are decoration to disguise the ships actual use. Considering the cost of this ship I doubt smuggling a few thousand people each trip would pay it's way somehow and while I'm sure it visits ports that have corrupt officials, it also uses most of the larger European ports where quarantine and border control are taken seriously, so nope, I don't buy this for one second.

Nukes - not a chance - no government will let a nuke out of their sights at all, for any reason. They have plenty of other much more secure ways of moving them - a shipping container on a general freight carrier isn't one of them. Every Country that has nukes also has a pretty decent Military and other hardware too. You think they couldn't get one of their own ships started so they just booked it via E-go to get it to where it has to be? [biggrin]

I won't ridicule you for a difference of opinion - well, not on this thread anyway but never say never... [bigrolf]

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Originally Posted by Homestar

I don't trust big business or governments but I don't believe for a second either of these things would happen with the carriers knowledge. Could there be drugs or people in a container - wouldn't be the first time no, but the nut jobs I've looked at on line claim the ships hull is empty and there are 1000's of people in there and the containers on top are decoration to disguise the ships actual use. Considering the cost of this ship I doubt smuggling a few thousand people each trip would pay it's way somehow and while I'm sure it visits ports that have corrupt officials, it also uses most of the larger European ports where quarantine and border control are taken seriously, so nope, I don't buy this for one second.

Nukes - not a chance - no government will let a nuke out of their sights at all, for any reason. They have plenty of other much more secure ways of moving them - a shipping container on a general freight carrier isn't one of them. Every Country that has nukes also has a pretty decent Military and other hardware too. You think they couldn't get one of their own ships started so they just booked it via E-go to get it to where it has to be? [biggrin]

I won't ridicule you for a difference of opinion - well, not on this thread anyway but never say never... [bigrolf]

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Interesting function for an MT Hull ship & one I had never heard of thus far, but not to say it cannot happen. Look at what Noah did & look at the mess that got us in, Bloody Vermin everywhere..[smilebigeye]


Nukes. You are talking "Known Nukes", but is possible smaller unofficial/illegal ones do exist. I hope not though & they certainly don't have to be like the Nagasaki model. #2 of 2.

4bee, are you ok?

I can refer you to some special assistance , which it seems you badly need.

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Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

4bee, are you ok?

I can refer you to some special assistance , which it seems you badly need.

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I'm fine thanks & no need to be sarky RB. We all have our own personalities even you. I could say you can go & **** yourself but that might seem to be a bit rude so I won't.

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Originally Posted by 4bee

I could say you can go & **** yourself but that might seem to be a bit rude so I won't.

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Settle down passive aggressive fight club
You did still say it though 😂

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Originally Posted by shwza

Settle down passive aggressive fight club
You did still say it though 😂

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Not another one who can read Asterisks?[bighmmm]