Petrol VS diesel?

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Originally Posted by Slunnie

I do think so. Engine component manufacturers like Bosch etc will still be developing this technology for the heavy diesel industry which isn't going anywhere at this stage.

Diesel engine tech has generally been a long way ahead of Petrol though.

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And I guess the military will still use diesel for at least the foreseeable future. A few electric experiments around but none that would stand up to the punishment of conflict like a diesel. Diesel is such a cool fuel in so many ways, compared to explosive fuels like petrol.

Diesels can meet pollution laws, it was just that VW cheated to try to get better performance by turning off the pollution gear except during exhaust testing.
If diesels get a decent highway run regularly the DPFs and EGRs should operate as designed. AdBlue just requires topping up.
I really don't see why this is so hard.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I really don't see why this is so hard.

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its more about lack of reliability of these pollution systems

What is this pollution .... I can't see any pollution ..... At least not until the smoke clears and I can see the sun again after starting my old diesel tractor when its 6 degrees outside [bighmmm]

I can't see petrol making a difference while diesel fuel economy and torque characteristics can't be matched by anything (other than electric of course. If they released a Hi-undi I30 priced vehicle that could do a couple of hundred clicks a day .... and recharge overnight ..... society will change ... simply because 90% of people only do short trips each day).

The harmful emissions are invisible - you can't see them. Smoke is not the problem.

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Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

What is this pollution .... I can't see any pollution ..... At least not until the smoke clears and I can see the sun again after starting my old diesel tractor when its 6 degrees outside [bighmmm]

I can't see petrol making a difference while diesel fuel economy and torque characteristics can't be matched by anything (other than electric of course. If they released a Hi-undi I30 priced vehicle that could do a couple of hundred clicks a day .... and recharge overnight ..... society will change ... simply because 90% of people only do short trips each day).

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Hyundai has already released those vehicles, the Ioniq and Kona.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Hyundai has already released those vehicles, the Ioniq and Kona.

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But for the same cost as an I30 ...................................... ? Cost is all that matters unless you are wealthy enough to care about image :) .... And if your that wealthy you would simply buy a Tesla ( I would!).

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

The harmful emissions are invisible - you can't see them. Smoke is not the problem.

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Yes, like Benzene that wonderful carcinogen from Petrol... [bigsmile]

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Yes, like Benzene that wonderful carcinogen from Petrol... [bigsmile]

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Yep, actually it is the exhaust fumes from unleaded fuel that my University chemistry lecturer really was worried about. Way way back, it was unleaded fuels rather than racing fuels that people handled very very carefully also.

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Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

But for the same cost as an I30 ...................................... ? Cost is all that matters unless you are wealthy enough to care about image :) .... And if your that wealthy you would simply buy a Tesla ( I would!).

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Agreed. Until EV's are cheaper than ICE vehicles it's all just a pipe dream. The masses can't afford to buy an EV, pure and simple. Until they can, they'll be no improvement in vehicle pollution levels. It is decades away from changing in this County.