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    Maybe we should start a class action claiming discrimination and offence.

    Isn't that what the milennials would do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johntins View Post

    Funny though, I don't remember any 'boom'. I'm 66. Maybe it's still coming.
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    The way things are going we will soon be a minority group ..... .

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    What has happened to "Gen X"?
    Global indifference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grappler View Post
    Recently I was cold called to participate in a Morgan Poll to do with the Royal commission into aged care
    Some of the questions included "Do you think old people are a burden on society?", "Will younger generations have to bear the cost to rectify older people's mistakes?", Who should pay for aged care-The person themself- the Govt- their relatives?"
    Im glad I got to put my answers forward (being a boomer), but you can see where non boomer opinion is heading
    As a 66 yo man who spends 2-3 hours a day, every day, caring for my 101 yo mother, I wish they'd call ME. I'd love to tell some millennial what I think of their opinions of mum's generations "mistakes". Mum lost her first boyfriend in a bomber in 1939. He was one of the first Oz killed in WWII. Mt wife's father suffered on the Burma Thai railway. I doubt that many people know what that means. He didn't do that so that some silly girl could post 'whatever' and a selfie on FaceBook.

    Mum and dad paid tax at a far higher level than these children do, and they always paid, no question. Now, the children are being brainwashed into believing that the old are the problem? I paid tax all my life. I understand that that money would not come back to me until I required help from the Govt. In fact, that's not true. I never considered I would ever need such help. Neither did my mum. She, and dad, made provision for their old age. Mum didn't even go onto the pension until she was 93. Her annuities had run out. I guess, in the view of these children, she just lived too long.

    These days, mum gets a "My Aged Care" package from the Feds. We got lavish promises of home help, gardeners, home maintenance, on call nursing... In fact, we get two visits a day to wipe mum's bum, which she won't let me do ( fair enough, she needs SOME dignity ), and so far I am now on debt to her aged care "provider" for about $10K, as the sub doesn't cover the visits on Sundays and pub hols. This "provider" has ungraciously agreed to hold off on the recovery of the outstanding until mum dies, when they can claim on her estate.

    I recall, many years ago, when people were incensed over the GST ( I'll try not to mention who REALLY wanted it...lol ) I was moonlighting as a cabbie. It was a frequent topic. I used to say that I wouldn't care if they made it 15%, provided the extra 5% was quarantined to fund Childcare, Education, Health and Aged care. These 4 are fundamental to ANY reasonable society. Nearly 30 years on and I don't see much wrong with that, apart from the fact that NOBODY saw the medical costs coming.

    A society that does nor revere its children or its elderly is nor a decent society IMV. Kids are your hope, old folk are your wisdom. Before Bali was corrupted, 50 years ago, you'd see this philosophy in every village. I grew up a Westerner, but I sure don't think I'm superior.

    I want my kids (?) and grandkids etc to live full and happy lives. I especially want them to live a happier life than I have so far. I hope to see it, even though I'm now a dreaded pensioner ( Carer ).

    Seems to me that the only way I can make the authors of this nonsense happy is to die. Well, much to some people's disappointment, I ain't ready. I paid my way. I still do, everyday. Mum's cost to the system would triple if I put her in a home. Some days I feel like it, but then I remember what she gave me.


    Sorry, bit of a rant, but I can't see anything I'd like to cut or change, so here it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitch View Post
    What has happened to "Gen X"?
    Global indifference?
    THey are working there guts out trying to get ahead. Lucky me .... The boomers implemented HECs just in time for us to get through school (so nothing free like the boomers), we left school at a time where we were thrust into a huge recession "that we had to have" (thanks boomers). ... So if we could find a job, it was tiny wages while paying back a big chunk of it as HECs. if you were dumb/desperate enough to take out a supplementary loan you'd probably still be paying the bastard off now ( that was how the boomers dealt with the fact we couldn't afford university .......... offer a "supplementary loan".) I read the paper work and decided I'd starve before I applied for that.

    In the mean time, the boomers sold off, the power, the water, the sewerage, the telecomunication, the roads......................... bloody anything that my grandparents slaved there arses off to build. All the public infastructure my grandparents built offf there own backs, the public, halls, the pools, the public spaces. The bloody boomers are still desperately trying to flog them off and shut them down. They won't be happy until they have sold everything to there developer mates that they can lay there hands on.

    Not to worry, us Gen Xs's will soon be doing the same to the millenials Not only that, we'll put as much care and effort into aged care for the boomers as they did into making our lives easy

    Really, this generational bull**** is all just that. The world has changed immeasurably in the last 100years. You can't judge historical decisions unless you lived through them and understood the circumstances decisions were made under. Just imagine how much fun the next 100years is going to be. I wonder if those damn millenials will look up from there damn phones for long enough to realise they are now in charge

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    There is no eraser on the pencil of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitch View Post
    What has happened to "Gen X"?
    Global indifference?
    We're still here, just doing our thang...OK Boomers, we've been called out.

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    Keep in mind though, when they introduced HECs they also opened the doors a fair bit.
    Previously you really had to fight to get into University - only the top of the heap made it and spaces were limited.

    Nowadays you can pretty much decide you want an Arts Degree in Lamington Production and if you have the cash you're in.

    Payback on HECs is measured against income so its not too bad if the debt was acrued in line with a suitable Degree that will yield benefit (refer to line above).

    I would fall into the post Boomer catagory, and my sons are Milennials.
    We're doing fine, and the kids are going well.

    One is a just about to become a Professor, the other is about to purchase their own home. Both knuckled down and made their dreams happen.


    Everything on this planet is driven by the exponential belief that financial growth can keep occuring - when we finally can shift this measure to something rational things may change.
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    Prior to 1974 only top of the heap could go to University (or those that got a scholarship) as you had to pay your fees as you went. This stopped me going to University when I left school in 1972 as my family could not afford it and I was not good enough to get a scholarship.

    Whitlam brought in free University which is a win for the future economy as higher general education of the population leads to higher long term economic outcomes for the nation. I did not go to university then as I was working but I did put myself through University from the mid 80s while I was still working.

    I was still at university when HECs came in in 1989 - was a bit of a shock to the system as my then income meant I still had to pay as I went. It ended up costing me a fortune to get my undergraduate and post graduate degrees and I am not sure it was worth it for me in my 30s and 40s - if starting at 18 maybe.

    I studied economics and on the historical site, education has shown to be an investment in the countries future so I feel that higher education should be free but accept there is a current load on the country's finances.

    What is now clear is the education system is geared to outputting kids with a year 12 education even if they are not they are not going to university. This is driven by many companies and industries that want the highest education qualified recruits not necessarily those who are best qualified - vocational training in many cases is on decline resulting in lowering numbers moving into the trades.

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