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    "Rather than remove this content, we want to acknowledge its harmful impact, learn from it and spark conversation to create a more inclusive future together."

    Translated to realspeak means, We don't want to offend anyone who may spend a dollar with us, but there's a buck to be made here and we're going to make it regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    "Rather than remove this content, we want to acknowledge its harmful impact, learn from it and spark conversation to create a more inclusive future together."

    Translated to realspeak means, We don't want to offend anyone who may spend a dollar with us, but there's a buck to be made here and we're going to make it regardless.
    Had to do a double check on your post Ian. Satich post did not seem that offensive to me mate Miss Piggy might be offended of course, The Green Machine would be cool I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitch View Post
    So, it has come to this! Surely the people who think these things up are in need of some serious psychological assessments or, perhaps they have the intestinal fortitude and spinal strength of a marsh mellow.



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    I always laugh when people get offended at other people being offended.

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    So the western world is now lurching into historical revisionism. It wasn't that long ago that Western democracies were critical of the Taliban for doing the same thing - they were destroying ancient statues etc which represented differing religious beliefs/interpretations.

    But - question of the day is.....Does this mean that Al Johnsons estate will have to return all the money he made from singing "Mammy"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shwza View Post
    I always laugh when people get offended at other people being offended.
    For sure! Walt will be rolling in his grave.
    He who takes offense when offense was not intended is a fool, yet he who takes offense when offense is intended is an even greater fool for he has succumbed to the will of his adversary...........Brigham Young


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    Quote Originally Posted by shwza View Post
    I always laugh when people get offended at other people being offended.

    It does tend to make it a tad difficult to know where the Middle Ground is. Ok Ok Ok,. in the Middle Mr Bee. **** sakes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumbles View Post
    So the western world is now lurching into historical revisionism. It wasn't that long ago that Western democracies were critical of the Taliban for doing the same thing - they were destroying ancient statues etc which represented differing religious beliefs/interpretations.

    But - question of the day is.....Does this mean that Al Johnsons estate will have to return all the money he made from singing "Mammy"?

    [Ron on] not Johnson, Jolson[/Ron off]

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    [Ron on] not Johnson, Jolson[/Ron off]
    Spot on......mixing names up....hmmmm.....guess I had another senior moment.....did I really spell that wrong.....did I even write it....can't remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumbles View Post
    Spot on......mixing names up....hmmmm.....guess I had another senior moment.....did I really spell that wrong.....did I even write it....can't remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumbles View Post
    So the western world is now lurching into historical revisionism. It wasn't that long ago that Western democracies were critical of the Taliban for doing the same thing - they were destroying ancient statues etc which represented differing religious beliefs/interpretations.

    But - question of the day is.....Does this mean that Al Johnsons estate will have to return all the money he made from singing "Mammy"?
    Without delving too deep into the huge topic you've possibly unintentionally gas lit there... I think western history does need to be revised and it is slowly. Mostly it's been written by the victorious and there's been a lot left out or underrepresented at best. I'll break Godwins law just for effect in the first reply and say.. No one's asking for statutes of Hitler to be kept right? But we're not going to write it out of history, just don't use his version of what he thinks he's like as his biography if you do lol.

    Mammy is a perfect example of a culture accepting that lampooning and ripping off the people you're actually actively segregating and putting into forced slavery is beyond okay. It's saying it's applaudable and worthy of reward. The fact is that it's only just being pointed out that it's not really fair. It's not about rewriting, but it is about revision as you say. There's been a lot left out of the history books.

    I think it's very indicative of a mature and developed culture if you're actually able to accept these things and work them out as a culture. It's admirable. There's a lot of governments in the world that would want to even let it be a topic in the community

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