Grumpy old buggers thread

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Originally Posted by V8Ian

Yeah, stick to health foods like chocolate eclairs and strawberry yoghurt. [biggrin]

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As well as Coffee Milk.[biggrin]

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

A bit busy at the moment so asked for a deferral of our Practice Accreditation. I had also asked to do that several months ago but was talked back into a September visit as Covid was under control 😊 Covid crazy now is a tad of an understatement. Not allowed to have Practice meetings due to Lock down is just one little impediment. The Visit scheduled next week is not allowed in the building being a minor example of the issues.

Honestly I had asked to withdraw from Accreditation and the ever encouraging QPA staff talked me in to trying a deferral request again.



The call today laid out the options/rulz and more. A bit shell shocked with SIP/PIP, Cold chain, standards and much more laid out as the essential bits over mental health, Vaccinations, Medical services and reasonable …..

We could happily agree cold chain and standards are important. I couldn’t help myself and suggested rule by media and recommendation to “call your Doctor” before we get the vaccines or information formally by multiple unprofessional self-promoting people over the last year or more is not to Standard.


The PIP (practice Incentive payment) comment had me thinking about ePIP. All the work we did and still do that was later linking to uploading MyHealth Records. We do not get $0.002cents ePIP for the tens of thousands online services I do which save the governement and patients thousand of $ and hours.
I appreciate a lot of practice make a lot of money from PIP. It was and is not my focus. Using Accreditation to validation of PIP did not convince me. I am happy with my 12year old landrover V a near by very PIP focused place driving a nice shine 2021 model RR[bigrolf]



Advise ‘Deferment’ if wanted would require the appropriate Documents/forms completed for them to consider. My request for ‘Deferment’ was not on the official form so cannot be considered.

Apparently, the reasons for the ‘Deferment’ on my request are different if put on an official document.


Cold play song “Twisted Logic” Should it have been “Politik” ringing in my head? I said the person clearly had a very difficult job, thank you and good bye.


Happy to say my options are not always what I am told they are. I clearly exasperated the poor sod who called me for not seeing it as they state it is.



Anais Nin quote is needed "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."[thumbsupbig]

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Yes, Covid lockdown last year in our practice, we had very little ppe gear left over after 2009 scare... we were making our own WHO formula sanister and we used old soviet tb clinic cloth design masks for staff made by my wife as no goverment stockpile...etc etc, two weeks into lockdown we get a call from health and safety, I recieved the call..are you doing this and that etc, yes we are in a medical practice etc After trying to lecture me for about five minutes asks to speak to a staff member to check I am not lying.. after two minutes into the conversation she tells him to f.. off and hangs up. Turns out he was working from the safety of his own home.. . Shouted her a bottle of wine for that.

I am so glad to have sold my rural general practice nearly 20 years ago - even back then I’d had a proper gut full of the bureaucratic BS that goes with Practice Accreditation and PIPs and SIPs.
Sure, these processes were necessary to bring underwhelming practices up to a standard, but I was seeing practices that were far exceeding these standards being dragged back to mediocrity because their far superior systems and processes weren’t recognised or aligned with the guidelines in the Accreditation Manual.
My last 20 years has been spent doing rural and remote relief work, including RFDS, just practicing proper medicine, and not having to worry about the drama of running the practice.
Now a happily retired Pa, trying to get better at golf.

UK has just announced that they will be remotely switching off electric car chargers from 8 to 11 in the morning and then from 4 to 10 in the evening. Plus random 30 minute pauses depending on demand on the system

Seems the number of electric vehicles are drawing more power than the grid can handle so need to reduce demand

Will need some mammoth planning decisions to build the power stations to meet demand if they stick to the all cars electric from 2030 statement. Not sure there is enough time for the planning process let alone building them in only 9 years

Can see some big subsidies being paid to companies to built and operate them as they can see the desperation from the government

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Originally Posted by 3toes

UK has just announced that they will be remotely switching off electric car chargers from 8 to 11 in the morning and then from 4 to 10 in the evening. Plus random 30 minute pauses depending on demand on the system

Seems the number of electric vehicles are drawing more power than the grid can handle so need to reduce demand

Will need some mammoth planning decisions to build the power stations to meet demand if they stick to the all cars electric from 2030 statement. Not sure there is enough time for the planning process let alone building them in only 9 years

Can see some big subsidies being paid to companies to built and operate them as they can see the desperation from the government

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Sounds like it is back to square one or maybe that should read Circle One?


The olde saying that "you can't get anything for nowt" still holds true?

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Originally Posted by 3toes

UK has just announced that they will be remotely switching off electric car chargers from 8 to 11 in the morning and then from 4 to 10 in the evening. Plus random 30 minute pauses depending on demand on the system

Seems the number of electric vehicles are drawing more power than the grid can handle so need to reduce demand

Will need some mammoth planning decisions to build the power stations to meet demand if they stick to the all cars electric from 2030 statement. Not sure there is enough time for the planning process let alone building them in only 9 years

Can see some big subsidies being paid to companies to built and operate them as they can see the desperation from the government

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I thought that one of the benefits of newer EV's was that their batteries could power the grid in times of high demand.

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Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

I thought that one of the benefits of newer EV's was that their batteries could power the grid in times of high demand.

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Sort of like....... "Hi Boss, sorry I won't be in this week I am helping to power the grid".[bigrolf]


But realistically who the hell thought that one up?
Cars stay at home plugged in to help feed the factory down the street. Who will pay for the power used that you have already paid for? (a) The factory? ( b.) you again? Who would pay for the faster depreciation of the batteries?


No idea what the sums are for this but would there be enough juice to keep households & industry operating for 1/2 a day even? Personally, it sounds like a load of hot cock & wishful thinking.

I suppose Think Tanks have to appear as though they actually do something constructive.




What Scarry said. :TakeABow: Also Pie in the Sky.

Some EVs can do that, such as the Nissan Leaf, but not others.

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Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

I thought that one of the benefits of newer EV's was that their batteries could power the grid in times of high demand.

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Originally Posted by 3toes

UK has just announced that they will be remotely switching off electric car chargers from 8 to 11 in the morning and then from 4 to 10 in the evening. Plus random 30 minute pauses depending on demand on the system

Seems the number of electric vehicles are drawing more power than the grid can handle so need to reduce demand

Will need some mammoth planning decisions to build the power stations to meet demand if they stick to the all cars electric from 2030 statement. Not sure there is enough time for the planning process let alone building them in only 9 years

Can see some big subsidies being paid to companies to built and operate them as they can see the desperation from the government

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Blind Freddy could see this was going to happen,it’s going to happen here as well.
And it’s going to happen in many other places around the world if the EV trend continues.

I can’t believe so many didn’t see this as an issue,particularly those politicians that are saying they are banning ICE,by such and such a date.

What it shows is that once again,they ,politicians,or whoever,have no idea WTF they are doing.

I went for one of my shorter dirt drives this weekend and it was quite busy as the suburbs are encroaching on the bush, lots of suburbanites/bogans who don't know how to drive on dirt, so driving too fast, not pulling over far enough, leaving their brights/spotties on, pro'ly as they hardly use them and lots more fast food litter, abandoned tyres, etc.