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    Quote Originally Posted by AK83 View Post
    Bob! I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion when your Utube link vid said the same thing as the historical article below did ...

    "As Philadelphia planned its parade, bound to be a large gathering, director of public health Krusen had ignored the growing concerns of other medical experts and allowed the parade to proceed, even as a deadly outbreak raged on nearby military bases. A political appointee, Krusen publicly denied that influenza was a threat, saying with assurance that the few military deaths were “old-fashioned influenza or grip.” He promised a campaign against coughing, spitting and sneezing, well aware that two days before the scheduled parade, the nation’s monthly draft call-up had been cancelled because army camps, including nearby Camp Dix in New Jersey and Camp Meade in Maryland, were overwhelmed by a conflagration of virulent influenza. Philadelphia’s parade poured gasoline on the flames.

    Krusen’s decision to let the parade go on was based on two fears. He believed that a quarantine might cause a general panic. In fact, when city officials did close down public gatherings, the skeptical Philadelphia Inquirer chided the decision. “Talk of cheerful things instead of disease,” urged the Inquirer on October 5. “The authorities seem to be going daft. What are they trying to do, scare everybody to death?”

    Authorities HAD a very full idea of what was going to happen, as they were warned.
    They had the information of the unfolding events from the army barracks, draft call, etc.
    That they chose to ignore the warnings isn't the same as saying they "had no idea about what was about to happen".

    Where it says in the extract of the article that Krusens inaction due to his fear of a general panic, is just a euphemism for he didn't want risk his political aspiration so easily.
    The director of Health and charities in Philadelphia, Wilmer Krusen, had assured the public , and authorities, that the disease would not spread beyond the military camps. However, stuck in the back of the Philadelphia evening bulletin, was the story of Thomas Harlacker, the 30 year old city policeman, who was one of the city's latest victims. City doctors warned the Mayor not to have the parade, but he took the advice of Krusen, possibly because Philadelphia had been given the task of raising $ 259 million for the War effort. Philadelphia had been free of the flu until a Naval ship arrived in the Navy Yard from Boston. So, authorities there were complacent, and it is fair to say they had little idea of the consequences of their actions, because this [ flu pandemic] had never happened before. Not on the scale it became, at least. John M Barry, author of " the great influenza" said it well when he said " when you mix politics and science, you get politics ". No one had any idea of the horror that was going to be inflicted on Philadelphia. I think it is true to say that. I stand by what I said.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Maybe it's just reality TV going on in the US and it will end when the new series is announced.

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    Two antiviral drugs that scientists hoped might prove effective at treating COVID-19 do not appear to provide patients with any meaningful benefits. Lopinavir/ritonavir, currently used to treat HIV, and Arbidol, an influenza antiviral drug, don't appear to improve recovery from the coronavirus in adult patients with mild to moderate disease, according to a new study.



    Lopinavir/ritonavir, Arbidol aren't effective for mild-to-moderate COVID-19 cases, new study finds | PhillyVoice
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    I wonder how the Ivermectin (drench) trials are going?
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    Ron, they probably realised you had them by the goolies & all it would take is for you to tighten your grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    Qantas only gave a credit, not a refund for our cancelled trip to NZ because of the NZ lockdown. The Sebel East Auckland only offered a credit until December - then they withdrew that because we hasn't accepted in time - until my wife got onto their HO. They apologised and refunded the money.

    Ron, they probably realised you had them by the goolies & all it would take is for you to tighten your grip.


    So good it was worth repeating.

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    Written by an idiot & lifted by an idiot for other idiots to read. Or not.

    1. You MUST NOT leave the house for any reason, but if you have a reason, you can leave the house.
    2. Masks are useless at protecting you against the virus, but you may have to wear one because it can save lives, but they may not work, but they may be mandatory, but maybe not.
    3. Shops are closed, except those shops that are open.
    4. You must not go to work but you can get another job and go to work.
    5. You should not go to the Doctor's or to the hospital unless you have to go there, unless you are too poorly to go there.
    6. This virus can kill people, but don’t be scared of it. It can only kill those people who are vulnerable or those people who are not vulnerable. It’s possible to contain and control it, sometimes, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster.
    7. Gloves won't help, but they can still help so wear them sometimes, or not.
    8. STAY HOME, but it's important to go out.
    9. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarkets, but there are many things missing. Sometimes you won’t need loo rolls but you should buy some just in case you need some.
    10. The virus has no effect on children except those children it affects.
    11. Animals are not affected, but there was a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…
    12. Stay 2 metres away from tigers (see point 11).
    13. You will have many symptoms if you get the virus, but you can also get symptoms without getting the virus, get the virus without having any symptoms or be contagious without having symptoms, or be non contagious with symptoms...it's a sort of lucky/unlucky dip.
    14. To help protect yourself you should eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand as it's better not to go to the shops, unless you need toilet roll or a fence panel.
    15. It's important to get fresh air but don't go to parks but go for a walk. But don’t sit down, except if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant or if you’re not old or pregnant but need to sit down. If you do sit down don’t eat your picnic, unless you've had a long walk, which you are/aren't allowed to do if you're old or pregnant.
    16. Don’t visit old people but you have to take care of the old people and bring them food and medication.
    17. If you are sick, you can go out when you are better but anyone else in your household can’t go out when you are better unless they need to go out.
    18. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house. These deliveries are safe. But groceries you bring back to your house have to be decontaminated outside for 3 hours including frozen pizza.
    19. You can't see your older mother or grandmother, but they can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver.
    20. You are safe if you maintain the safe social distance when out but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance.
    21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours ... or four hours...or six hours... I mean days, not hours. But it needs a damp environment. Or a cold environment that is warm and dry... in the air, as long as the air is not plastic.
    22. Schools are closed so you need to home educate your children, unless you can send them to school because you’re not at home. If you are at home you can home educate your children using various portals and virtual class rooms, unless you have poor internet, or more than one child and only one computer, or you are working from home. Baking cakes can be considered maths, science or art. If you are home educating you can include household chores within their education. If you are home educating you can start drinking at 10am.
    23. If you are not home educating children you can also start drinking at 10am.
    24. The number of corona related deaths will be announced daily but we don't know how many people are infected as they are only testing those who are almost dead to find out if that's what they will die of. The people who die of corona who aren’t counted, won’t or will be counted but maybe not.
    25. We should stay in locked down until the virus stops infecting people but it will only stop infecting people if we all get infected so it’s important we get infected and some don’t get infected.
    26. You can join your neighbours for a street party and turn your music up for an outside disco and your neighbours won’t call the police. People in another street are allowed to call the police about your music whilst also having a party which you are allowed to call the police about.
    27. No business will go down due to Coronavirus except those businesses that will go down due to Coronavirus. Hope that makes things clearer for you?
    Last edited by SBD4; 21st April 2020 at 07:40 PM. Reason: Lordy, someone please help Des find the return key!

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    Perhaps Bob could show Des how to cut and paste, Sean.
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    Banksy, in lock down, working from home.


    Banksy unveils his latest artwork – in his bathroom
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    I saw facemasks in mitre10 today, big pile of them, $75 for a box of 50...people were buying them.

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