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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    PM announced after National Cabinet that anyone under 40 will be able to have AZ and the Commonwealth will indemnify GPs to give it.
    This is a good move I think. Let's just get it done ASAP.

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    Yes good move, but what about the conflicting ‘health advice’ that AZ now only safe for over 60’s?? PM has indemnified doctors but patients are totally confused by the mixed messaging that goes against health advice.
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    ….so now, aged between 40-60 you can’t have AZ (unless you’ve already had first dose - bad luck) but under 40 you can have AZ? …no mention of blood clot stats under 40! …So the PM is giving medical advice now? for under 40’s because National cabinet told him to get on with it!

    …but the actual medical advice for AZ is that it’s only safe for over 60’s …and AZ is being phased out altogether because it’s dangerous based on expert medical advice, and because more mRNA vaccines are (maybe) coming from OS sometime this year.

    But despite AZ being phased out for expert medical reasons, if you’re under 40, or you’ve had your first AZ, or you’re over 60 you should get AZ anyway. …What the ?!?!??
    Get your facts right boys. They've now lowered the age limit to 40 and over for AZ if you want it. Below 40 is still only Pfizer. 40-59 yrs can have AZ or Pfizer with Pfizer being the preferred option. 60 and over is AZ only.

    You can thank the current outbreak for the break in apathy and the sudden rush on vaccine demand. Up until now many people have been lazy about it and happy to let someone else step in front of them after listening to the brain dead, myopic rumour mill that is social media which passes itself off as a source of news, beating up big on the dangers of vaccination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by windsock View Post
    It'll be interesting to see the final numbers after all plausible incubation period is up. Party on 19 June, two weeks is up 3 July. If we allow another week for a 21 day period as is being implemented in some places overseas, this would be definitive. If this tally still stands after that it'll be a poster child for vaccination. It'd be good to know the vaccines they were served with.
    I think all med staff should have been 1a rollout which was meant to be all Pfizer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBD4 View Post
    Get your facts right boys. They've now lowered the age limit to 40 and over for AZ if you want it. Below 40 is still only Pfizer. 40-59 yrs can have AZ or Pfizer with Pfizer being the preferred option. 60 and over is AZ only.

    You can thank the current outbreak for the break in apathy and the sudden rush on vaccine demand. Up until now many people have been lazy about it and happy to let someone else step in front of them after listening to the brain dead, myopic rumour mill that is social media which passes itself off as a source of news, beating up big on the dangers of vaccination.
    Was just listening to the news and it said under 40’s can request AZ now but it didn’t really say if someone like myself (51) can request AZ as I’m on a long waiting list for Pfizer at the moment unable to get AZ.

    To say it’s confusing is an understatement and why I’ve been unable to get a vax of any description so far peeves me off no end. It’s been a complete and utter farce.
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    Data from NSW's Covid-19 weekly surveillance report showed just one of the first 8 cases in the Bondi cluster had received a single dose of vaccine, the remaining 7 had not been vaccinated at all. There is frustration growing in the NSW government over the ability to vaccinate with the Pfizer vaccine, because only 140 GP's are signed up to deliver the vaccine.


    Berejiklian warns NSW cannot deliver Pfizer without more GPs (msn.com)
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    Was just listening to the news and it said under 40’s can request AZ now but it didn’t really say if someone like myself (51) can request AZ as I’m on a long waiting list for Pfizer at the moment unable to get AZ.

    To say it’s confusing is an understatement and why I’ve been unable to get a vax of any description so far peeves me off no end. It’s been a complete and utter farce.
    You are right Gav. Apologies to Mick and SpudheadTed.

    The way I heard it on ABC this morning was wrong. I decided to go to the source and read the PMs statement:

    Now, a final thing noted tonight by the National Cabinet was the Federal Government to support also the mandatory vaccination not just those of aged care workers, but more broadly to support the vaccination of, of people across Australia, we will be implementing a new no fault indemnity scheme for general practitioners who administer COVID-19 vaccines. So this relates to encouraging Australians to go and chat to their GP about their vaccination and to have their vaccination administered. Now, the ATAGI advice talks about a preference for AstraZeneca to be available and made available to those as preferred for those over 60. But the advice does not preclude persons under 60 from getting the AstraZeneca vaccine. And so if you wish to get the AstraZeneca vaccine, then we would encourage you to a, go and have that discussion with your GP and we've already made announcements to support those additional consultations with the GPs so you can have that conversation. And secondly, we are also providing the indemnity scheme for those general practitioners so they can actively engage with you and you can make the best decision for your health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar;[URL="tel:3092542"
    3092542[/URL]]Was just listening to the news and it said under 40’s can request AZ now but it didn’t really say if someone like myself (51) can request AZ as I’m on a long waiting list for Pfizer at the moment unable to get AZ.

    To say it’s confusing is an understatement and why I’ve been unable to get a vax of any description so far peeves me off no end. It’s been a complete and utter farce.
    Correct. Anyone under 40 can now get AZ. Infact today, the ABC news announced that now ALL adults can get AZ!! Despite it being phased out!!

    Im 51 too and did the right thing, followed the advice, had my first AZ, but then a week later 50-59’s were told to only have Pfizer. But now because I had first AZ I’m not eligible for Pfizer! I have to get second AZ!!

    Katherine Murphy sums up the shambles of the confused messaging here:

    It’s the pandemic, stupid: Morrison scrambles for excuses as fatigue and frustration build | Katharine Murphy | The Guardian

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBD4 View Post
    Get your facts right boys. They've now lowered the age limit to 40 and over for AZ if you want it. Below 40 is still only Pfizer. 40-59 yrs can have AZ or Pfizer with Pfizer being the preferred option. 60 and over is AZ only.

    You can thank the current outbreak for the break in apathy and the sudden rush on vaccine demand. Up until now many people have been lazy about it and happy to let someone else step in front of them after listening to the brain dead, myopic rumour mill that is social media which passes itself off as a source of news, beating up big on the dangers of vaccination.
    Not surprised you’re confused SBD4, most are!

    AZ medical advice has just gone out the window - According to ABC News this morning, ALL adults are now able to get AZ vaccine, if you trust the ‘health advice’...

    Anyone can now go to their GP and request the AstraZeneca vaccine

    AstraZenenca can now be requested by anyone under 40 in major change to vaccine program - ABC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed View Post
    Correct. Anyone under 40 can now get AZ. Infact today, the ABC news announced that now ALL adults can get AZ!! Despite it being phased out!!

    Im 51 too and did the right thing, followed the advice, had my first AZ, but then a week later 50-59’s were told to only have Pfizer. But now because I had first AZ I’m not eligible for Pfizer! I have to get second AZ!!

    Katherine Murphy sums up the shambles of the confused messaging here:

    It’s the pandemic, stupid: Morrison scrambles for excuses as fatigue and frustration build | Katharine Murphy | The Guardian
    I’m happy to get AZ and will be heading in as soon as I can to get mine. Due to illness I had to cancel my original appointment then the rules changed. Hopefully a mass vax centre can sort me with a jab this week now instead of waiting another month plus for Pfizer.

    All my relatives in England (dozens of them) have had AZ as has my brother and Mum so I’m not concerned at all about having that instead of Phizer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar;[URL="tel:3092547"
    3092547[/URL]]I’m happy to get AZ and will be heading in as soon as I can to get mine. Due to illness I had to cancel my original appointment then the rules changed. Hopefully a mass vax centre can sort me with a jab this week now instead of waiting another month plus for Pfizer.

    All my relatives in England (dozens of them) have had AZ as has my brother and Mum so I’m not concerned at all about having that instead of Phizer
    Homestar I’d wait for Pfizer if I were you… you’ll be fully vaccinated with the best vaccine a month earlier than with AZ, due to 3 weeks between doses for Pfizer, compared with 3 months between doses for AZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    Was just listening to the news and it said under 40’s can request AZ now but it didn’t really say if someone like myself (51) can request AZ as I’m on a long waiting list for Pfizer at the moment unable to get AZ.

    To say it’s confusing is an understatement and why I’ve been unable to get a vax of any description so far peeves me off no end. It’s been a complete and utter farce.
    After it was announced Pfizer was being made available to the 40 to 50 age group, my son went down to the hub to register and / or get the jab. They put pressure on him to get the AZ, and virtually indicated they would not vaccinate him with Pfizer, but he demanded Pfizer, and so they put him on " the list". That was last week, still waiting on the E-mail, text, phone call, or pony express rider as to a jab date. The natural conclusion? they do not have the Pfizer available. As for Health professionals , aged care residents and staff, up here the aged care system didn't have enough doses to vaccinate residents wirh both doses, and staff, so staff had to use what was left over after the residents were fully vaccinated. It was not a matter of vaccine hesitancy, but a matter of supply. Advice from my GP is you could always request AZ, but GP's wanted confidence they would not be subject to legal action if the dose had an adverse effect. that advice has not been forthcoming from the Federal Government , according to her. A complete and utter farce? The following article is over 2 months old. Patients are still confused.

    " Gp's say clinics inundated with calls from confused patients after advice AZ vaccine be avoided by people under 50."

    Australian doctors condemn vaccine ‘farce’ after AstraZeneca reversal | Health | The Guardian
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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