Fuel $1 per litre?

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

Interesting question. Any attempt to raise the same amount of revenue related to road use, which is what excise is roughly proportional to, is almost certain to require powers held by the states not the commonwealth. This potentially could provide a good income stream for lawyers for years to come.

States and territories are likely to try to introduce a road use related tax, using the decline in excise as an excuse, and ignoring that excise is a commonwealth revenue. And the Commonwealth could use it as an excuse to, for example, charge a "GST equivalent" tax on the output of your solar panels, whether used for road transport of not, in the same vein that they attempt to collect excise on any biodiesel you make..

Personally, I have difficulty seeing why there should be specific road use taxes above the general taxes of GST, company tax, income tax, payroll tax, rates, etc etc paid by other industries and businesses. in any case, as these increase costs of everything. Fuel excise is an accident of history, introduced when motoring was a new phenomenon, and a luxury enjoyed only by the wealthy.

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They will put up the price of electricity :firedevil:

Bought diesel for 131.9 in Burnie today.

They could adopt the EU system of putting a black box into each car and taxing you on miles traveled and time of day the trip was made. There is also talk of use of the speed Information collected to issue fines. Insurance companies are also keen to access this information for their own purposes

This is part of their Galileo GPS operation that they have put together in conjunction with the Chinese government. System was built with this functionality from the start as a way make the system pay for itself once the investment was in place

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Bought diesel for 131.9 in Burnie today.

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Just got back into Perth tonight and need to give the old 110 a drink for the way back to the farm
Looking on Petrol spy website
My local has ulp 116.9 and diesel 127.9
Costco at the airport ulp 112.7 and diesel 119.7
Might wait a couple of days and see if it gets any cheaper

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Originally Posted by 3toes

They could adopt the EU system of putting a black box into each car and taxing you on miles traveled and time of day the trip was made. There is also talk of use of the speed Information collected to issue fines. Insurance companies are also keen to access this information for their own purposes

This is part of their Galileo GPS operation that they have put together in conjunction with the Chinese government. System was built with this functionality from the start as a way make the system pay for itself once the investment was in place

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The problem with using this to collect an equivalent to fuel excise is that excise is a federal tax, and any such device would need either uniform agreement on all aspects from all states and territories or for all states and territories to cede their control of roads and traffic to the commonwealth.

Given that even after agreement to have uniform road rules twenty years ago, we can't even manage to get the same rules in every state, best of luck with that. It could be made a part of the ADRS, but again, it would need all states to agree to incorporate that into their legislation - same situation.

Just another issue that has people putting up all sorts of technical solutions when the problem is social and political!

A good public servant would soon find a way to fit such a tax under an existing category that the Commonwealth has control over.

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Originally Posted by 3toes

A good public servant would soon find a way to fit such a tax under an existing category that the Commonwealth has control over.

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And spend the next ten years providing a steady income to half the country's legal profession - you clearly do not remember the fate of the state "Transport Coordination" acts.

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

And spend the next ten years providing a steady income to half the country's legal profession - you clearly do not remember the fate of the state "Transport Coordination" acts.

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After the decisions in the Hughes & Vale and Antill-Ranger cases the permit fees and other imposts on interstate transport were found unconstitutional. The state govts. introduced state laws to collect "Road Maintenance Contributions". These charges were highly resented by the industry and many never paid any preferring to take a chance on imprisonment and/or bankruptcy. I only ever paid what they asked for which was from trips when my number plate was recorded. A group of lawyers in South Australia came up with a cunning plan which eventually sunk the contributions without trace.

As I said!

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Bought diesel for 131.9 in Burnie today.

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It’s been 127.5 here for the last few weeks.

LPG still up in the high 80’s though[bigsad]