Thread: Australian Made vs Off-Shore.

And then you have the problem of the LARGE buying out the small to lessen competition.
I won't mention names but thing big supermarkets & a certain hardware mob, phone companies.
I'm not saying they aren't good at what they do but they are very predatory & once all the competition is gobbled up?
Good for share holders, not so good for Australia.
Jonesfam.

Sometimes it can be a fine line between being 'Entrepreneurial' and 'Back Dooring' someone.
A bloke I know took a company to court which, to all intent and purpose, appeared to have 'Back Doored' him. Everyone involved and a lot of people not involved, thought he was a shoe-in.
It turned out that 'Your Honour' preferred the term 'Entrepreneurial', ergo: Win to company.

Then you get Oz companies that are simply greedy. In my tool selling days I priced a line of Oz made items and was left breathless by the trade pricing I was quoted and had to buy box lots. I was able to buy in small quantities from a retailer in California sent by air mail for less than the pricing quoted in Australia for the same items.

In the 1970's a local manufacturer who was a very inventive guy found one of his designs being blatantly marketed without acknowledging or paying royalties for the use of his patents by an Asian company. He told me he spent over $100,000 (1970's) in their courts trying to get redress and became convinced that a white man could not win in that countries courts.

For example

I support free market and globalisation.

I think we are simply in the transition stage to globalisation. When people and their product/efforts will eventually be judged by the quality not place of origin

There will be one day where unskilled Aussies will have to move to China to do unskilled labour and get paid $5 a hour. By then we won't be pressured/forced by local manufacturer to pay more in the name of "protecting local employment".

I know its provably scary for those who need a morning tea break

Merely citing wage costs if taking a an oversimplistic view. Health, safety, environmental considerations, fair and reasonable conditions don't rate on the agenda in places like China.
China use criminal and ideological prisoners as slave labour, a pertinent fact conveniently overlooked by the free enterprise/global marker supporters.
In 1949 China expressed its intention to be the world leader by 2049. By playing the long game they're well on their way to fulfilling their ambition. The rest of the world is aiding China in this quest by saving a few pence, in their short term views.
It never ceases to amaze me that businesses, large and small, who vocally support right-wing politics, are more than happy to contribute to the advancement of communism. Obviously the dollar has the highest priority.

I'm not anti Big Business.
I'm aniti unethical business.
You can be ethical & make a profit at the same time. And I mean actually ethical, not just pay lip service to it.
Every tiny little business I've owned or managed I have tried to make bigger but, not in an underhand way. That takes more time & effort but you have to live with yourself.
Jonesfam

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Merely citing wage costs if taking a an oversimplistic view. Health, safety, environmental considerations, fair and reasonable conditions don't rate on the agenda in places like China.
China use criminal and ideological prisoners as slave labour, a pertinent fact conveniently overlooked by the free enterprise/global marker supporters.
In 1949 China expressed its intention to be the world leader by 2049. By playing the long game they're well on their way to fulfilling their ambition. The rest of the world is aiding China in this quest by saving a few pence, in their short term views.
It never ceases to amaze me that businesses, large and small, who vocally support right-wing politics, are more than happy to contribute to the advancement of communism. Obviously the dollar has the highest priority.

Wait a second but China nowadays is the pinnacle of capitalism where everything is about making money not the lefty tree hugging stuffs.

China's success proves the power of capitalism
And the demise of Australian manufacturing sector proves how soclism doesn't work and will never work.

Your brain is full of socialist ideas haha and I don't think you are aware of that.

"Dollar has the highest priority" literally the motto for capitalism, especially a pro-business free market capitalism where greed incentivize everybody to work hard and play hard.

Tell you what there is a reason why entrepreneurs flee Australia. Our country is all about mining and selling houses

By the way, what makes most of our wealth in the recent 20 years is by digging up stuffs from the ground that belongs to mostly migrants like your grandparents and sometimes aboriginals and sell them to China, aiding them to be ,in your words, "world leader". Aussie iron ores has been and will be used to make weapons for Chinese "communist" soldiers and build red China buildings

Hypocrisy is strong with you

Cheers