An interesting afternoon!

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Originally Posted by Saitch

I was doing work there at the time and my recollection is that the dozer that got stuck had a 100 tonne sheeps foot roller on the back.

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Brambles Heavy floated it into our workshop at Tutts Machinery Group for an insurance quote. Our then Service Manager prepared a quote to his standards. A most particular man who insisted on high standards for work in his shop. The insurance assessors started trying to give the quote a haircut. "Don't do this, this is not necessary, this is a bit over the top, etc." SM stood his ground and told them that was what needed doing and they could take it elsewhere if they didn't like it. He also 'phoned the owner and told him what the insurers were trying to do. Owner activated his legal team and a **** fight ensued. Ended up with the insurers approving Tutts quote.

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Originally Posted by V8Ian

Did you have a win, Dave, or is it like John's tractor, still stuck in the paddock?

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this was the start point...
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and this was at about 3 hours and 30 in,

all told on site 3 recoveries the yota, the trailer and the tractor

the trailer was repositioned first so as not to recover it through the bog the tractor had made and to test the anchoring of the snatch block.
a redirected 2:1 was set up off the anchor to pull the yota uphill to firm enough ground for it to pulled out with a single line pull and then a snatch strap and strap to its point to assist in winching out the tractor.
the tractor was pulled out as you see it set up 2:1 off arkie/post and a 2:1 with additional anchoring off the yota.
The trailer was then single line pulled by the tractor using the winch extension cable before being hooked up to to the tractor

Is that Gippsland Dave?

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Originally Posted by speleomike

Hi



It's still raining so you have time on Sat morning to back back and get pics for us :-)

Thanks
Mike

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No way I'm going anywhere near that paddock until there has been at least two days of no rain. And even then I'm going to be very careful. That paddock has soil that becomes thixotropic when wet - if you break through the surface held together by roots it has the consistency of half melted icecream.

I should add that about 100m from the bogged Great Wall and tractors is a tandem trailer (also with the axles below ground level) and with the firewood that was on it unloaded next to it!

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

thixotropic when wet

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Would be one of the more interesting warning signs on a gate... [biggrin]

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Originally Posted by Hogarthde

Is that Gippsland Dave?

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no, Narre warren

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

No way I'm going anywhere near that paddock until there has been at least two days of no rain. And even then I'm going to be very careful. That paddock has soil that becomes thixotropic when wet - if you break through the surface held together by roots it has the consistency of half melted icecream.

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Some of the soil around Yass was something like that. The surface was reasonably firm, but under that it was the consistency of porridge.
Years ago I pulled off the side of the road with the Series III with a light box trailer behind to load a bit of firewood. As I drove forward, the surface was barely marked. I backed up a bit to make it easier to avoid a small sapling and once again, the tyres barely left a wheel rut.
As I drove forward, I was crossing some tyre tracks for the third time. I went through the top layer and immediately sank to the diffs. A small tractor was all that was needed to solve the problem.

I saw a similar soil profile on my property on the Boorowa Road. There had been some rain so for a couple of weeks an earth moving contractor tested the soil to see if he could bring his machinery in. He used a length of steel rod which he forced down into the dirt. The first one or two hundred mm took quite a bit of effort, but below that he could push the rod down with no effort at all.

Some soil looks boggy and easily leaves footprints. That soil offered no clue to what would happen if you broke through the surface.

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Originally Posted by vnx205

Some of the soil around Yass was something like that. The surface was reasonably firm, but under that it was the consistency of porridge.
Years ago I pulled off the side of the road with the Series III with a light box trailer behind to load a bit of firewood. As I drove forward, the surface was barely marked. I backed up a bit to make it easier to avoid a small sapling and once again, the tyres barely left a wheel rut.
As I drove forward, I was crossing some tyre tracks for the third time. I went through the top layer and immediately sank to the diffs. A small tractor was all that was needed to solve the problem.

I saw a similar soil profile on my property on the Boorowa Road. There had been some rain so for a couple of weeks an earth moving contractor tested the soil to see if he could bring his machinery in. He used a length of steel rod which he forced down into the dirt. The first one or two hundred mm took quite a bit of effort, but below that he could push the rod down with no effort at all.

Some soil looks boggy and easily leaves footprints. That soil offered no clue to what would happen if you broke through the surface.

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Yes, all the way from Murrumbateman through to Bevendale where our farm is and up to Wyangala dam. I'll not be taking the tractor out of the shed for a little while, I have experience with winching it out of that soup. The Patrol I mentioned above also found out the had way what it's like.

Regards,
Tote

I call that type of soil Custard Mud. I had quite a few Landy's bogged in it during a driver training weekend on a property north of Bathurst quite a few years ago. The driver training turned into a recovery training weekend! All recovered using various methods and equipment carried by the participants, no tractors involved.