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    Boating rules

    In another life I was a member of a Sea Rescue Group in WA. In addition to that I have spent another big part of my working life on the ocean.
    I cannot understand these idiots at all. Not only does their ancient boat appear to be well past its use by date, it appears that what safety equipment that they did have was mostly out of date.

    Evidently one of them has already been fined in relation to the safety equipment, but what should really happen is that they are forced to pay for what the search has cost!

    Missing SA boaties safe and well after largest sea search in SA history

    Missing SA boaties safe and well after largest sea search in SA history - ABC News

    "I feel fine, I've been doing this s*** all my life, it's only everyone else who's freaking out," Mr Higgins said to media who journeyed out to see him.
    "This is not my first rodeo, I've been out in cyclones, this is just a walk in the park."

    He thanked the rescue teams who went looking for the pair but was confident of making it back without them.
    "If they hadn't turned up, I'd have been sneaking through the channel, up the river, I'd be parked on the jetty now swilling beer!"


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    I had a Duncanson 29 which I would happily have done that trip in, but certainly wouldn't have in that tub! I know in this modern world there is 'duty of care' and all that ****, but really, it's a pity 'the good old days' rules didn't apply...and he was indeed left alone to complete the trip that he so confidently thought he would, or sink. Rather than costing other people time and money.
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    Its funny on one side and cost a bucket load of money on the other side. I happily go a long way from shore fishing I appreciated the risks and also take epirb and all required saftey kit. Comms can be very tricky over the horizon as most of us who go to some nice remote places know. Only do it when forecast is suitable for my little boat

    The funny is the Air crews not spotting the boat. In the Air forces defense - Rough seas makes small boats almost invisible to radar an white caps+ do make spotting difficult.

    I would agree Mr Higgins is a cowboy
    "Mr Higgins has copped a $1,000 fine for having an out-of-date Emergency Position Indication Radio Beacon (EPIR and for also having only expired flares on board.SA Police also discovered Mr Higgins did not hold an appropriate recreational boat licence."

    One or two things smell a bit ""I fell in the drink off the wharf on the first night so my phone was buggered the whole way through," Mr Robinson said." The search began when someone on the boat told some one off the boat that they had propeller troubles?

    Odd Happily no one died and a old boat has a new home

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    They had just bought the boat, so the out of date flares and crook EPIRB were the responsibility of the previous owner, but what a pair of dills, to set out in what even looks like a dodgy boat, with dodgy gear. And, they were miles from where they reported they were meant to be. Something dodgy about this whole incident. My guess is they got on the turps and had to anchor up to sober up. Then panicked when they realised their families would be freaking out not having any news from them. I'm betting the Authorities are not finished with them yet.
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    They had just bought the boat, so the out of date flares and crook EPIRB were the responsibility of the previous owner
    Wrong.
    It is the responsibility of the new owner or even just the skipper to make sure that ALL the safety equipment is in good working order AND still in survey.
    You can't simply assume that everything is in perfect condition just because you have bought a boat especially a rickety old tub like this one, You Have to check it all out for yourself Before you head out to sea.
    Your Safety at sea is your OWN responsibility NOT the boats previous owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    Wrong.
    It is the responsibility of the new owner or even just the skipper to make sure that ALL the safety equipment is in good working order AND still in survey.
    You can't simply assume that everything is in perfect condition just because you have bought a boat especially a rickety old tub like this one, You Have to check it all out for yourself Before you head out to sea.
    Your Safety at sea is your OWN responsibility NOT the boats previous owner.
    I Agree. And there is nothing to say that the buyers didn't supply their own out of date EPIRB and Flares. My bad, I guess. There is just no way to make any sense out of this .
    It matters not how strait the gate,

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    I Agree. And there is nothing to say that the buyers didn't supply their own out of date EPIRB and Flares. My bad, I guess. There is just no way to make any sense out of this .
    I think it was simply a case of Old Mate buying the boat and his impatience to give it a sea run over ran his common sense in this instance.
    We have some pretty strict boating rules here in WA and inspections at boat ramps, beaches and even at sea are pretty common and the fines for non compliance are pretty hefty as well.
    I have bought dozens of different boats over my lifetime and ensuring that the safety gear is up to scratch on each of them BEFORE I go to sea has always been the first priority.
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    Do you keep your safety gear up to scratch to comply with the law or for personal insurance for yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    Do you keep your safety gear up to scratch to comply with the law or for personal insurance for yourself?
    $$$$Fine just one reason. Not being able to get help if it is 'really needed' makes me check my safety kit is all up to scratch before the motor starts every time. Its on my checklist. Bait, Rods, water, fuel, Life jackets, flares, radio and Epirp all date checked before I leave my house to be honest.


    I am sure a few of us, have got to a remote camping site with to find some twit has turned up with no food, swag, sleeping bag or cooking kit or similar needs missing out trying to scrounge. Not a place I want to be in myself on the water or on land

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    Do you keep your safety gear up to scratch to comply with the law or for personal insurance for yourself?
    Take a boat on the water as skipper you are responsible for the safety of all those with you. In a nutshell. If anything, I tend to probably over do it. When you get into trouble on the water you not only put you and the lives of those with you at risk, but the lives of those coming to your assistance. [ considering that circumstances often dictate such a situation ]. Cowboys like the ones in the news here are not only a danger to themselves.
    It matters not how strait the gate,

    How charged with punishments the scroll,

    I am the master of my fate,

    I am the captain of my soul.

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