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    That "Green" thing...

    My work van is a Renault Kangaroo (alright it's a "Kanga") and this current one has been on lease since 2018. It is a diesel which is fitted with stop/start technology. When you stop, the engine switches off. Last Friday after the engine switched off it would not restart. I had to get assistance. Anyway the battery has been changed. This is the second replacement battery that has been fitted to the vehicle. So since 2018 it has had THREE batteries.
    Makes you wonder how sensible these so called "green initiatives" are. Batteries take a lot of time and effort to make, from mining through to finished product. That is a lot of emissions. So long as the emissions are not coming out of the exhaust pipe some people think that is great. The Puma battery lasted 12 years.
    It seems the "Kangaroos" are fitted with a cancellation switch for the stop/start facility but this has been removed by my employer in their infinite wisdom.

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    That's something no one ever talks about.... replacement battery costs or the costs to mine/manufacture them. Most of the smug gits that drive them I've known have been gov. employees so wouldn't know nor care about servicing or the real cost of anything to do with "their" vehicles as they get new models every 2 years here.
    My elder bro had a Lexus Hybrid and described it as a great car, absolutely faultless but was most unimpressed when quoted $US8K in Zurich where he lives for a new battery pack. So back to Land Rover but only an FL2 not the "His and Hers" Rangies him and his missus used to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spudfan View Post
    My work van is a Renault Kangaroo (alright it's a "Kanga") and this current one has been on lease since 2018. It is a diesel which is fitted with stop/start technology. When you stop, the engine switches off. Last Friday after the engine switched off it would not restart. I had to get assistance. Anyway the battery has been changed. This is the second replacement battery that has been fitted to the vehicle. So since 2018 it has had THREE batteries.
    Makes you wonder how sensible these so called "green initiatives" are. Batteries take a lot of time and effort to make, from mining through to finished product. That is a lot of emissions. So long as the emissions are not coming out of the exhaust pipe some people think that is great. The Puma battery lasted 12 years.
    It seems the "Kangaroos" are fitted with a cancellation switch for the stop/start facility but this has been removed by my employer in their infinite wisdom.
    How many kilometers?
    Our Mazda has stop-start and is on the original five year old battery, but it's only done 77,000ks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    How many kilometers?
    Our Mazda has stop-start and is on the original five year old battery, but it's only done 77,000ks.
    You can fool the Mazda stop-start by shifting into neutral when stopping.
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    Ours has a button on the dash to turn it off. Or lift up on the brake pedal and the engine starts.

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    I wonder how long the starter motor will last & at what cost to replace it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbjorn View Post
    You can fool the Mazda stop-start by shifting into neutral when stopping.
    Even easier is to wedge a small bit of paper in the on off button for it that's on the dash - it stays in quite easily and makes it so you don't have to worry about it every time you start the car - did it to Mums as it was driving her nuts - she loves it.

    Personally it is a deal breaker for me - any car where it can't be turned off permanently would get crossed off my list straight away. Interestingly Kia and Hyundai are moving away from auto stop start - new models they are releasing now have scrapped the idea. Can only hope other OEM's follow suit, but my next car I put my cash down for is almost certainly going to be a Kia anyway and the new Sorento (which is currently top of my list - but haven't driven one yet) doesn't have it so all good there.
    If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.

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    There is about 80,000 kms on it. It is not the only vehicle in the fleet that has had batteries changed.
    When it cuts out and the ignition is left as it is, the engine will restart after a certain length of time. There is an awful lot of work expected of the starter motor. The company only lease them for three years so it is the lease company that has to replace the battery.

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    Had a Peugeot with the stop start function. It was dangerous. Cut the engine fast enough as you released the accelerator. Problem was it was very slow to start again. You could count to 3 between pressing the accelerator and the engine starting again. You really had to concentrate when joining traffic and be ready for the car behind to expect you to start moving when you didn’t. Dealer claimed this was normal and gave me a demo to drive which was exactly the same. You learnt to keep the accelerator pressed part way down and other foot on break peddle so the engine stop did not cut in

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3toes View Post
    Had a Peugeot with the stop start function. It was dangerous. Cut the engine fast enough as you released the accelerator. Problem was it was very slow to start again. You could count to 3 between pressing the accelerator and the engine starting again. You really had to concentrate when joining traffic and be ready for the car behind to expect you to start moving when you didn’t. Dealer claimed this was normal and gave me a demo to drive which was exactly the same. You learnt to keep the accelerator pressed part way down and other foot on break peddle so the engine stop did not cut in
    Sometimes when restarting the vehicle I have to do it twice to get it to work. The mechanic who came to my aid told me that when I stopped to depress the clutch straight away and rev the engine hard. This stops it cutting out. So much for the green thing, like I said.

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