help.....

**disco_ute** · 16th June 2006, 06:26 PM

this is a strange request but i need help.... I have a Liquidambar in my front yard very close to the house and garage (less then 2 mtrs to garage) and is causing stupid amounts of damage to garage slab and house footings. It cost me about 2k 2 yrs ago as i had to replace the old urban ware sewer pipes it had made its way into and blocked up!! The time has come and it may have to be put down! Its about 30 mtrs high scares the crap out of me when its windy as it makes some scary noises. I have had the local council come and do there thing so i am waiting for replies from them. If the council says i have to keep it i am going to take the law into my own hands.... enough is enough!! The question i have is..... how do i put a tree down without hacking it with a chainsaw? I need to make it sick so it is allowed to be taken down.... I have heard copper nails work but how long do they take?? feel free to PM me if you dont want to make it public (i know how wrong this is) but u guys seem to know everything so i'll take my chances....

Thanks
Mick

**one_iota** · 16th June 2006, 06:36 PM

Hi Mick

Be patient...if you have put your case to council...safety, property damage...then council will be looking at it's liabilty if it denies permission for the tree's removal.

Make sure you follow up with a written case if you haven't already and request your rights for appeal.

If you proceed to hammer in copper nails or bore holes and inject agent orange then they have an "out".

Liquid Ambers are a "weed" and most enlightened councils recognise this.

Be firm but stay legal...after all you pay your rates.

**disco_ute** · 16th June 2006, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by one_iota

Hi Mick

Be patient...if you have put your case to council...safety, property damage...then council will be looking at it's liabilty if it denies permission for the tree's removal.

Make sure you follow up with a written case if you haven't already and request your rights for appeal.

If you proceed to hammer in copper nails or bore holes and inject agent orange then they have an "out".

Liquid Ambers are a "weed" and most enlightened councils recognise this.

Be firm but stay legal...after all you pay your rates.

Thanks Mahn I will wait and see... it' just pi$$ing me off as i have to fit the bill for anymore damage it is going to cause the aborist said its not a weed

Mick

**one_iota** · 16th June 2006, 07:01 PM

Mick,

An Arborist's only mission in life is to save trees.

Council will always call in an Arborist as this is due diligence...they will also consult a Lawyer.

A Lawyer's mission is to extract compensation (and a fee).

I hope it doesn't come to that.

Maybe you should add a structural engineer's opinion.

Keep us posted

**LandyAndy** · 16th June 2006, 07:24 PM

Hi Mick
Drill holes into the trunk on a 45deg angle downwards and fill with straight roundup.
Wait till spring to do it as the tree will be dormant at the moment and it wont work.Dont mention it again to the shire,as they will accuse you of poisoning it.
Cover your tracks,ie put a piece of bark into the holes to hide it.
Leave the tree dead for as long as safely possible before removal,and if its on your own property just remove it with a contractor.TAKE PLENTY of pics of it dead(with dates) when its supposed to be dead not dormant and you should get away with it.
Andrew

**one_iota** · 16th June 2006, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

Hi Mick
Drill holes into the trunk on a 45deg angle downwards and fill with straight roundup.
Wait till spring to do it as the tree will be dormant at the moment and it wont work.Dont mention it again to the shire,as they will accuse you of poisoning it.
Cover your tracks,ie put a piece of bark into the holes to hide it.
Leave the tree dead for as long as safely possible before removal,and if its on your own property just remove it with a contractor.TAKE PLENTY of pics of it dead(with dates) when its supposed to be dead not dormant and you should get away with it.
Andrew

Don't do it.... read above

The complaint is on the public record at Council and you will be hunted down.

"Fight fire with fire"

**disco_ute** · 16th June 2006, 07:32 PM

i am trying to do the right thing..... but if all fails...............

**one_iota** · 16th June 2006, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by mickrangie

i am trying to do the right thing..... but if all fails...............

But it hasn't failed yet...be firm and calculating...and claim the high moral ground

Remember that they (Council) are our servants and not our masters!

**disco_ute** · 16th June 2006, 07:46 PM

My council is one of the worst in Victoria for cutting down trees.... I really think i have no chance but only time will tell

Mick

**George130** · 16th June 2006, 08:44 PM

You could offer to plant a new tree in a better location. Good luck. 3 years and counting for the dead trees in front of our place. I got the ****s with one that was about to fall on the drive and just winched it over cut it up and left it on the nature strip. 4 months later and its still there but I am in the country.

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