Thread: Money for jam

Originally Posted by Rovernaut

Well it's not really a rip. Imagine the overheads trhe stealerships have. They have to pay wages to all their staff, retainers to the sale personell even if they don't sell a vehicel the still get paid. Then there are those special landrover tools. The well set up workshop facilties, the advertising. The lease on the premises. Then some onew like you and the rest of us, me included comes along and does everything ourselves. So the dealer's service dept can't make a quid, so they GOT TO CHARGE THE 1ST MUG THAT CAN"T DO IT , THOSE HIGH COSTS, JUST TO SURVIVE! In other words instead of retiring over many small jobs the try and retire on one job LOL

A friend of mine with a tojo just copped a hefty service bill. We call it the 4x4 factor. But what gets me with Landrover the stealer's seem to charge so much more than the likes of tojo and the other jap crap, can any one tell me why?

Economies of scale, they probably make and sell about 1000000000000 more Tojo's than LRs, and manufacture about 250000000000 more parts.
They also manufacture in countries where labour is much cheaper, and closer for freight etc.etc.....

But they are crapand should be banished

Originally Posted by one_iota

It only takes 20 minutes max to actually change the pads... it's just the rest of the stuff that takes the time:

5 minutes to read haynes manual (first time)

There's 5 mins you could knock off. You should know that you only read the manual if/when you get stuck.

Thats why i do everything myself and use my mechanics workshop to do the stuff i cant do at home. Saves me a fortune. Having said that my car is nearly 10yrs old and no longer under warranty. Matt

Originally Posted by Ace

There's 5 mins you could knock off. You should know that you only read the manual if/when you get stuck.

Thats why i do everything myself and use my mechanics workshop to do the stuff i cant do at home. Saves me a fortune. Having said that my car is nearly 10yrs old and no longer under warranty. Matt

I was worried for a minute....I thought you were going to take away the beer time

i would like to point out a few things about the stealers. 85% of the work they do is routine service work which anyone can do. then 10% warranty work were they replace not repair faulty items, the stealers can have that. and then 5% is actually problem solving, in comes the diagnostic computer. god help you if it cant find the problem because the mechanic probably wont and if he does you will need a bank loan to pay for it.

i have a 95 disco v8 that was having trouble going up up steep hills, took it to the stealer, 2 days later and $900 out of pocket disco returned problem not fixed was told to take it some where else. took it to graham coopers in sydney 3 hrs and $250 later disco fixed.

i can tell you more stories but they all end up the same way, hundreds of dollars for the stealer for something you could do yourself, if you need to take you landy to a mechanic take it to a landy specialist not a stealer.

Originally Posted by chunk

i would like to point out a few things about the stealers. 85% of the work they do is routine service work which anyone can do. then 10% warranty work were they replace not repair faulty items, the stealers can have that. and then 5% is actually problem solving,

I bet LR wish there was only 10% warranty work !!

Its unfortunate because if they were more useful than tits on a bull and didnt charge like a wounded bull then more people would take thier cars to them to be repaired. Matt

i agree land rover warrenty would be a bit higher. but as a general rule
10 % warrenty work is pretty close to the mark. my wife worked for 10 yrs as a warrenty clerk at a large dealership and she had to keep records of the types of work they were doing and thats the figures she came up with.

any way you are better off going to and independant land rover repairer who actually spends his day repairing land rovers than going to a dealer who spends his day servicing land rovers.

one thing you may not know is all dealers have a book issued by the manufacture that dictates how many hours labour they should charge to do a set job, so if they are doing a gear box change over and the book says it takes 3 hours to do the job you are charged 3 hours labour even if it only took 1.5 hours, a nice little lerk i think. but then if the job takes longer than 3 hours they should still only charge you 3 hours labour but i bet they dont.