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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoges View Post
    Last Monday's (22 Feb) Courier Mail has a snippet regarding an unlucky couple who bought a Land Rover from Frizelle's at the Gold Coast. According to the evidence given at the Qld Civil and Administrative Tribunal (QCAT), the vehicle experienced a fault every tank of fuel on average... including a failed gearbox on the day of delivery... so the hapless couple demanded a refund...the dealer didn't dispute the facts... but it took a court order to get any action... Frizelle's ordered to pay back almost $70,000.. doesn't help the reputation of the brand nor the reputation of the dealer...
    Youre selectively seeing these as your interest is land rovers.

    Reality is Toyota and all the others have regularly featured in the courts for the same reasons.

    Known as the BaaderMeinhof phenomenon
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    Other half has a Lexus which was mine Pre Disco days Honestly say its is now scrap only value due to two issues Lexus and private auto electrical types cannot work out. Beautiful car still it is almost worthless, it may be road worthy but it could not pass one.

    The five year older one in happily in much better shape excluding folding mirrors and similar little cosmetic issues for the nice family still driving it.
    On the same token 2 of my mates drive Lexus cars and both have been exceptional... when I say "exceptional" I mean they havent had a blown v6 diesel engine, no park brake failure, no engine cooler failure, no transfer case control module failure, no cracked inlet manifolds, no brake booster oil ingress, no turbo failures etc etc etc etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DazzaTD5 View Post
    On the same token 2 of my mates drive Lexus cars and both have been exceptional... when I say "exceptional" I mean they havent had a blown v6 diesel engine, no park brake failure, no engine cooler failure, no transfer case control module failure, no cracked inlet manifolds, no brake booster oil ingress, no turbo failures etc etc etc etc...
    So you're comparing 2 cars against all landrovers? Or 2 against 2?

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    Well this thread hasnt disappointed.

    My Cars reliable so all this make must be

    Hmmm...


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    Quote Originally Posted by DazzaTD5 View Post
    On the same token 2 of my mates drive Lexus cars and both have been exceptional... when I say "exceptional" I mean they havent had a blown v6 diesel engine, no park brake failure, no engine cooler failure, no transfer case control module failure, no cracked inlet manifolds, no brake booster oil ingress, no turbo failures etc etc etc etc...
    JC on here loved them as well,and there isnt much about vehicles he doesnt know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    So you're comparing 2 cars against all landrovers? Or 2 against 2?
    No I'm comparing someones one or two sample with another persons one or two sample.
    Both irrelevant...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Youre selectively seeing these as your interest is land rovers.

    Reality is Toyota and all the others have regularly featured in the courts for the same reasons.

    Known as the BaaderMeinhof phenomenon
    I follow John Connelly in his motoring column in The Weekend Australian (me and 6 other readers apparently) he has an ongoing saga about the intransigence of Mazda and Ford and a shocker about a Honda Civic Type R...
    A friend just bought a Tesla...he was referring to the recent JD Power survey and laughing...he's had it 4 weeks and already one of the cameras is U/S... apparently a 'known failure''... he then sighed and said"I think Tesla drivers are like Landy drivers.... the vehicles have a reputation for being unreliable....but as owners, we love them!!" I do miss my P38, but with a 7 yr warranty and at my "age and stage" the diesel mid spec Santa Fe compared with a similarly equipped Discovery Sport(at +30% $$$) it was a no-brainer. I just didn't want the worry or the hassle.... (it's a bugger getting old(er)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    Well this thread hasnt disappointed.

    My Cars reliable so all this make must be

    Hmmm...
    C'mon, Gav, you knew that going in. It was ever thus.

    Personally, I am unsurprised. My son chaffs me for brand loyalty. He cites as his example Land Rover and Apple. He's wrong. I choose Apple because I am heavily invested in the ecosystem Steve Jobs sold me, and I can't stand Google, so there's Android ****ed. I choose Land Rover because, for some infathomable reason I fell in love with the damn things, when my Army experience should have driven me away. But I don't love the new ones. They ain't Land Rovers, no matter how much spin Tata puts on it.
    But, brand loyalty does exist. Just ask a LandCruiser driver, even if he has a flawed 7X series.. "Oh, sure, I had to spend 25K getting the rear suspension sorted, but so what?"
    This survey only shows what everyone expected. Toyota, Toyota, Toyota. That in itself should tell you it's BS. Everybody loves Maccas. Except me. I wouldn't feed Maccas to my dog, if I had one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    C'mon, Gav, you knew that going in. It was ever thus.

    Personally, I am unsurprised. My son chaffs me for brand loyalty. He cites as his example Land Rover and Apple. He's wrong. I choose Apple because I am heavily invested in the ecosystem Steve Jobs sold me, and I can't stand Google, so there's Android ****ed. I choose Land Rover because, for some infathomable reason I fell in love with the damn things, when my Army experience should have driven me away. But I don't love the new ones. They ain't Land Rovers, no matter how much spin Tata puts on it.
    But, brand loyalty does exist. Just ask a LandCruiser driver, even if he has a flawed 7X series.. "Oh, sure, I had to spend 25K getting the rear suspension sorted, but so what?"
    This survey only shows what everyone expected. Toyota, Toyota, Toyota. That in itself should tell you it's BS. Everybody loves Maccas. Except me. I wouldn't feed Maccas to my dog, if I had one.
    Yep! On my other forum, a bloke with a V8 'cruiser had the motor blow, from a known issue, apparently and all the comments went along the lines of 'What bad luck', 'Oh, that's no good', 'You'll be right with the new engine', etc. No one mentioned that it was unreliable or a bucket of pus.
    I actually commented that it was lucky it wasn't a Nissan, Jeep or Landy, as the thread would be hundreds of pages long, full of comments from advertisement absorbing, Toyota owners .

    p.s. haven't had a Maccas in 30 years or more.
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    I kinda like it.

    You keep buying them, they'll keep making them and I have guaranteed employment.
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