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    Its out folks - I want to hear the excuses.

    I know that there are those here that dont give this survey much credit, but when you look at the list, its hard not to see that it isnt far from the truth. I know Ill probably get howled down about what they survey, etc but Im just the messenger.

    JD Powers reliability survey for 2021 is out - 2021 U.S. Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS) | J.D. Power

    Not a pretty picture for our beloved green oval here, but not unexpected to be honest. John Cadogan also has a video out about it and his views on Euro cars in general isnt kind - and probably rightly so these days so many other offerings can match them or better for a fraction of the cost.

    Electric Jesus cultists wont like this either - any they dont even have an engine to worry about. FYI the result for Tesla didnt meet JD Powers requirements because Tesla wouldnt let them survey owners in 15 states so the results are from the other 35 but still pretty telling.

    Anyway, just thought Id put it out there. 👍😊



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    Surveys are like opinions and we all know about them.....
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    😂 land Rover dead last lol

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    Statistics and lies.
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    What this tells me is that they must be pretty hopeless with maintenance in the US

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    Next, they'll be asking who is going to win the election, with similar results probably.
    Ian has a point. Acura is better than Honda? Lincoln is better than Ford? Cadillac and Buick better than Chev?
    Results of surveys like these are heavily weighted by perceptions. People 'perceive' that Toyotas are reliable. People 'perceive' that Porsches are a cut above. These people don't respond negatively to surveys as they believe that they could not possibly be wrong.
    Cadillac, Buick and Lincoln are all "premium" versions of major domestic brands, often just with added bling and leather, but once again they are 'perceived' to be better.
    At the other end of the scale, people expect poor quality from the British brands. They like their cars, otherwise why buy them, but they have to listen to others saying "why did you buy one of those lemons?".
    I'm not defending LR, far from it, they probably deserve their place on this list, but I doubt that they are as bad as this survey makes out, or that Lexus is that good.
    I'll bet people will keep buying Teslas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Next, they'll be asking who is going to win the election, with similar results probably.
    Ian has a point. Acura is better than Honda? Lincoln is better than Ford? Cadillac and Buick better than Chev?
    Results of surveys like these are heavily weighted by perceptions. People 'perceive' that Toyotas are reliable. People 'perceive' that Porsches are a cut above. These people don't respond negatively to surveys as they believe that they could not possibly be wrong.
    Cadillac, Buick and Lincoln are all "premium" versions of major domestic brands, often just with added bling and leather, but once again they are 'perceived' to be better.
    At the other end of the scale, people expect poor quality from the British brands. They like their cars, otherwise why buy them, but they have to listen to others saying "why did you buy one of those lemons?".
    I'm not defending LR, far from it, they probably deserve their place on this list, but I doubt that they are as bad as this survey makes out, or that Lexus is that good.
    I'll bet people will keep buying Teslas.

    You may be correct but... look at how far down Landrover is, well past Alfa. It would be nice if the LR guys concentrated on getting things right instead of new tech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by windsock View Post
    What this tells me is that they must be pretty hopeless with maintenance in the US
    Yes, been watching some youtube vids from murca on D3's and most have been 120+ thousands miles and nothing has been touched.
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    Well I havent been disappointed so far. Keep the excuses coming.


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    lol @ tesla
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