Diesels not an economic choice?

Dont forget the cost of rebuilding a diesel as well. Should something go wrong (it only takes a blown hose) = big $$$$$$ - as a general statement it costs much more than a petrol motor to rebuild. Oil changes (except maybe TD5) are more frequent and generally consume more oil and diesel oil is more expensive than petrol oil etc etc

Also in a whole of life costing should consider km each is capable of doing before a rebuild is necessary, I dont want to start an argument here but IMO V8's generally do more km than Rover diesels. Toyota/Nissan diesels IMHO last longer but you pay more up front compared to the petrol option for the privelege.

If Ford put a diesel motor in a Territory how many of you LR owners would buy one?

George130 : Lurch tells me the same thing.(a lot) !

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Originally Posted by mark2

Dont forget the cost of rebuilding a diesel as well. Should something go wrong (it only takes a blown hose) = big $$$$$$ - as a general statement it costs much more than a petrol motor to rebuild. Oil changes (except maybe TD5) are more frequent and generally consume more oil and diesel oil is more expensive than petrol oil etc etc

Also in a whole of life costing should consider km each is capable of doing before a rebuild is necessary, I dont want to start an argument here but IMO V8's generally do more km than Rover diesels. Toyota/Nissan diesels IMHO last longer but you pay more up front compared to the petrol option for the privelege.

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Cost of rebuilding - I doubt if you can generalise as the costs depend largely on what the manufacturer charges for the parts, which bears no relationship to whether the engine is petrol or diesel. I can't comment on whether Rover builds more durable petrol or diesel engines, but the thread is more general anyway. A blown hose is likely to be very expensive with any engine. You are right about diesels generally having a larger oil capacity than petrol engines, but for similar quality oil the cost is difference is not large - and the major cost of a service will usually be labour not oil.

You can introduce all sorts of additional points such as the above, but diesels will still be ahead on fuel costs compared to petrol (but not LPG), which is what most people seem to worry most about, and in most cases will be ahead on depreciation - which is the major running cost, but which most people do not seem to worry about. But the overall difference may well be quite small, and very difficult to quantify, especially in advance.
John

At least with a V8 you get the choice of ULP or Gas. If you sacrifice cargo spce you get both fuel ranges and in the end a 50% saving on the gas tank.

Roughly like this.

Petrol 90L @ $1.30 = $117.00 = 500km
Gas 80l @ $0.66 = $52.80 =350

$169 gets you 850k.

How does that shape up??

Also you can fill up with gas whenever you can or run on petrol when you can't find a bowser. I would be pretty reluctant to get rid of my main fuel tank in the V8.

I also prefer v8's. They just go!

300tdi 760k costs $92 :P

Now lets do 0 to 100k!

That's going to get me some heat!
:o

Just filled up the disco(300tdi) on 1000k's cost $142 for 92litres , bloody good economy but god i hate the price of fuel lately.
Last service cost me $8 for oil filter, $25 fuel filter, $50 oil(10lt penrite), $20 air filter. Thats not to bad can't see the petrol being to much cheaper exept for fuel filter.

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Originally Posted by Maggot4x4

Well it's 1300km trip door to door, the tank is 130l, I put about 115L in it over a week after we got here in which I had done other running around.

So no, I'm not 100% sure but that is the normal sort of figure it does.

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Mropocalypse look at Maggot4x4 fuel figures.
I'am still depressed.

you guys left out Isuzu motors...
and biodiesel - DIY fuel for a bit of time and effort!

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Originally Posted by mrapocalypse

Now lets do 0 to 100k!

That's going to get me some heat!
:o

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they dont go to bad at all with a tweak.... quite surprising actually....

look at it this way, while your in getting your next load of fuel the rattlers will take the lead and then some :P