Indonesia asks for Aus. and Singapore to help in Submarine sinking

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Originally Posted by Old Farang

Hmm, well this is something new:

Indonesia's sunken submarine may have been hit by a powerful force known as an internal wave


Indonesia's sunken submarine may have been hit by a powerful force known as an internal wave - ABC News

As an Indonesian navy submarine crewed by 53 men glided below the surface of the Bali Sea during a routine training exercise, it may have been hit by an invisible but powerful force that dragged them to the deep.

Indonesian navy officials suspect an internal solitary wave, known to occur in the seas around Bali, may have caused the sinking of KRI Nanggala 402, and the loss of its 53 crew.

The vessel sank to a depth of 838 metres, far beyond the reach of rescuers.

Many theories have been put forward butauthorities now say there is evidence an underwater wave — that can exert an intense vertical pull below the sea surface — occurred in the Bali Sea around the very time the submarine disappeared last Wednesday morning.

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There is such a thing, but .....sounds like a snowjob to me. Nature is to blame, not human error. Right.

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Originally Posted by bob10

There is such a thing, but .....sounds like a snowjob to me. Nature is to blame, not human error. Right.

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I would have thought that it would be incorporated into the design surely?

i agree with bob on thsi one.

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Originally Posted by shwza

I would have thought that it would be incorporated into the design surely?

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I'm not an expert, but something doesn't sound right. The Submarine force Commander was sea riding, apparently. they were about to commence torpedo drills, [ hate that word] apparently. Whatever happened, there was not enough time to communicate any problems to the surface. Why was the squadron Commander there? Were they testing a new weapon? Am I promoting a conspiracy theory? probably. Either way, a submarine and her crew are laying on the bottom of the ocean. And I have no more idea than any one else why.

There is a good description of "internal waves at the following. While I have an open mind on what MAY have happened, having spent about 10 years working offshore in Indonesia I have never heard of this being a problem.
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What we know about the internal waves that may have sunk Indonesia's submarine


What we know about the internal waves that may have sunk Indonesia's submarine - ABC News

While some speculated that the submarine was hit by a foreign missile or a power blackout, Indonesian authorities now suspect the submarine was pulled under by a powerful underwater current called an internal solitary wave.

https://youtu.be/oBA4E66fERQ

Indo's are very well known for not questioning any authority. Civil or military you do not point out any problems. The Navy were very quick to blame everything but the crew. The wave theory if you read into it only effects a couple of hundred feet, once through it they should have been able to recover.

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Originally Posted by Fourgearsticks

Indo's are very well known for not questioning any authority. Civil or military you do not point out any problems. The Navy were very quick to blame everything but the crew. The wave theory if you read into it only effects a couple of hundred feet, once through it they should have been able to recover.

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That certainly puts a new slant on it, Fgs.


Things can't improve with that crap thinking.[bighmmm]

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Originally Posted by bob10

I'm not an expert, but something doesn't sound right. The Submarine force Commander was sea riding, apparently. they were about to commence torpedo drills, [ hate that word] apparently. Whatever happened, there was not enough time to communicate any problems to the surface. Why was the squadron Commander there? Were they testing a new weapon? Am I promoting a conspiracy theory? probably. Either way, a submarine and her crew are laying on the bottom of the ocean. And I have no more idea than any one else why.

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When I raised that question on here thinking as you have I was told it meant it was the normal Boat Captain.


Dunno!

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Originally Posted by bob10

Actually, that was something lost in translation. the " Commander " was the Boats Captain.

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Actually, it was you bob.