Interesting First Aid Facts.

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Originally Posted by CraigE

Would be nice to be able to carry some Penthrox though if needed.

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You should be able to get Penthrane with a doctors scrip. It's quite expensive though, work pay $11 per ampule and $11 per inhaler.

To keep space & costs down I tried to get morphine (which I use [on patients] at work) for the Simpson trip, but being an S8 drug, the doctor was reluctant to prescribe it. However he prescribed Tramal which can also be given IV or IM, which I had not thought of. Tramal is only an S4 drug and hence not as regulated.

Analgesia would certainly make it easier to get someone with a fracture out of the bush. We also carried Stemetil & Maxolon for nausea. Stemetil works on the central nervous system, and is better for motion sickness (imagine lying flat in the back of a 4WD in the Simpson!) and Maxolon works on the Gastointestinal system and is better for GIT upsets associated with drug side effects. Oral antibiotics were carried in case of chest or tooth infections, but we carried an IV broad spectrum antibiotic (Ceftriaxone) in case of large open wounds or burns.

If you're in a remote area, and have a good GP, you should be able to get something for major trauma. If you have a medical director at work, they may be able to assist.

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Originally Posted by DEFENDERZOOK

how many people take vineagar to the beach.....?

or do you just go to coles with the jellyfish tentacle hanging off.....?





this is a tricky one......

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When we lived in Darwin I used to take a spray bottle of vinegar when walking the dogs on the beach. Had visions of them biting a jellyfish! :eek:

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Originally Posted by Michael2

To keep space & costs down I tried to get morphine (which I use [on patients] at work) for the Simpson trip, but being an S8 drug, the doctor was reluctant to prescribe it. However he prescribed Tramal which can also be given IV or IM, which I had not thought of. Tramal is only an S4 drug and hence not as regulated.

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My wife is allergic to morphine and Tramal doesn't work very well for her (she often gets a twisted bowel and the pain can be really severe). She usually gets Pethidene.

Ron

Reading page 1 - Jojo what the heck would you know about medecine ? That's why we got rid of you in the 1st place. Damn foreign doctors. We'd rather die (and are doing so) than put up with you lot....;)



Gday mate.:)

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So if you get a Jellyfish sting don't think it an old wives tale about pouring vinegar over the tentacles

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I really must get my eyes tested again. I wondered how pouring vinegar over my testicles was going to help with stings?

Then I realised........:eek: ;) :D


Useful info there.:)

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Originally Posted by 4bee

I really must get my eyes tested again. I wondered how pouring vinegar over my testicles was going to help with stings?

Then I realised........:eek: ;) :D


Useful info there.:)

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ROTFL :lol2:
make you grumpier than normal, eh Des. ;)

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Originally Posted by Michael2

You should be able to get Penthrane with a doctors scrip. It's quite expensive though, work pay $11 per ampule and $11 per inhaler.

To keep space & costs down I tried to get morphine (which I use [on patients] at work) for the Simpson trip, but being an S8 drug, the doctor was reluctant to prescribe it. However he prescribed Tramal which can also be given IV or IM, which I had not thought of. Tramal is only an S4 drug and hence not as regulated.

Analgesia would certainly make it easier to get someone with a fracture out of the bush. We also carried Stemetil & Maxolon for nausea. Stemetil works on the central nervous system, and is better for motion sickness (imagine lying flat in the back of a 4WD in the Simpson!) and Maxolon works on the Gastointestinal system and is better for GIT upsets associated with drug side effects. Oral antibiotics were carried in case of chest or tooth infections, but we carried an IV broad spectrum antibiotic (Ceftriaxone) in case of large open wounds or burns.

If you're in a remote area, and have a good GP, you should be able to get something for major trauma. If you have a medical director at work, they may be able to assist.

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You just have to be careful as a doctor must sign of and be responsible for any such prescribed painkiller and is ultimately responsible should it be used and kept incorrectly. Our penthrox, penthrane, methoxyflurane or whatever you want to call it comes in a pack with inhaler and 2 x 3mll ampules, highest dose you can give someone without a doctor. Scheduled drugs also must be kept locked up.
Wiil only look into it more seriously for remote trips(may ask our OHN when she gets back). I know most doctors are unlikely to give anyone authority below a nurse, from there we use it and are answerable to her and the doctor. Although most of us discussing this are paremedics or industrial paramedics so are trained to use them anyway. A broad range of pain relief would be great although not always practical. IV gear would be good as well but most often not neccessary.
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make you grumpier than normal, eh Des.

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Just a bit, Rick.:eek:

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Originally Posted by 4bee

I really must get my eyes tested again. I wondered how pouring vinegar over my testicles was going to help with stings?

Then I realised........:eek: ;) :D


Useful info there.:)

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No mate thats deep heat



ooooooooohh Yeeeeeaaaahhh:D

One of the problems with being hit by a stingray barb is the removal of the
black sheath covering, this stays deep in the wound causing massive infection,

The best aplication for pain from any sting,etc from any marine creature is to
apply hot water, as hot as you can bear it.

Having had a job putting bandaids on sick persons (25 years) picked up a 45 year old that was hit in the leg by a stingray while crabbing, while monitored
he went from a normal sinus rythum, into VF and arrested, after being jumpstarted a few times he survived .

Seashells.