Vic Red Plate Scheme

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Originally Posted by Homestar

And zero mods allowed in SA ................

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Is that how Eevo gets away with whatever? [biggrin]

Just kidding, DL

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Originally Posted by 350RRC

Is that how Eevo gets away with whatever? [biggrin]

Just kidding, DL

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The "must be standard" type issue I can understand. Its quite impossible to deal with. You see, show me any old Citroen CX or DS .... and I'll point out effortlessly all the "non-standard" stuff on it. However all of them will be just "because" times change. eg: original size tires are no longer available, smog pumps were dumb, --continue this list forever ....

I'm not sure how or where you can draw the line if you don't say "must be standard/unmodified". Eg: my ****box range rover has a disco motor, LT230 and R380. none of which are standard for this model...

seeya,
Shane L.

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Originally Posted by 350RRC

Is that how Eevo gets away with whatever? [biggrin]

Just kidding, DL

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[bigwhistle]

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Originally Posted by d2dave

Heard on the radio yesterday that Vicroads are losing too much money with club rego.

So they are going to change the rules that car has to be 30 years old instead of 25

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This was to take effect from October 1st, but a fellow car club member sent me some information yesterday to say
it may not be going ahead now.
Our Car Club has not received anything official from VicRoads to say it is, or is not going case, so I have emailed them
for a clarification.
Like the other other emails I have sent to them over time, I will "eventually" get a reply.

Cheers, Mick.

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Originally Posted by mick88

This was to take effect from October 1st, but a fellow car club member sent me some information yesterday to say
it may not be going ahead now.
Our Car Club has not received anything official from VicRoads to say it is, or is not going case, so I have emailed them
for a clarification.
Like the other other emails I have sent to them over time, I will "eventually" get a reply.

Cheers, Mick.

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Registered my 26 year old Defender on the permit system earlier in the week.

Colin

Attachment 173504
Not much changing, apparently fines will be going up for those doing the wrong thing.

An update on the Vic CPS

Vic Club Permit update - more details unwrapped

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in simple terms when you pay rego it covers personal injury (to yourself or others), and road construction/maintenance.

You, the individual, can only drive one vehicle at a time legally on a public road. My guess is that there are now some minds ticking over...

You're a collector with 20 mechanically dodgy Land Rovers but road worth and registerable in Qld, and a trusty Toyota Corolla.

Like many Land Rover owners you're a lone maverick.

Your one registration payment should cover you when driving any of those vehicles. The wear and tear you cause driving your collection is no different to just driving the Corolla all the time. Your risk factor of an accident is not much different whether driving your collection or just the Corolla all the time.

You finally meet the spouse of your dreams - although they are really only interested in the appreciating value of your collection, and your old age.

Registration is now due. Two rego fee required to cover two people being on the road driving any of the collection.

Each year you have a child which quickly morphs into a P plater. Unless you are making them appreciate being an adult and paying their own way then you will increase the number of registrations proportionally to family growth.

If you are having to pay more rego than there are drivers for your vehicles then people with collections are being called upon to pay more than their fair share of revenue. Either that or you should get your own slip lane going to work to compensate.

And club plates should not be needed.

Property insurance is a different issue. An insurer would not expect to receive an insurance fee for just the Corolla, and at the same time cover your collection for no addition fee.

What are the holes in my theory? And I don't mean responses like '...there are no cars in Qld that are registerable...'

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Originally Posted by workingonit

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in simple terms when you pay rego it covers personal injury (to yourself or others), and road construction/maintenance.

You, the individual, can only drive one vehicle at a time legally on a public road.

You're a collector with 20 mechanically dodgy Land Rovers but road worth and registerable in Qld, and a trusty Toyota Corolla.

Like many Land Rover owners you're a lone maverick.

Your one registration payment should cover you when driving any of those vehicles. The wear and tear you cause driving your collection is no different to just driving the Corolla all the time. Your risk factor of an accident is not much different whether driving your collection or just the Corolla all the time.

You finally meet the spouse of your dreams - although they are really only interested in the appreciating value of your collection, and your old age.

Registration is now due. Two rego fee required to cover two people being on the road driving any of the collection.

Each year you have a child which quickly morphs into a P plater. Unless you are making them appreciate being an adult and paying their own way then you will increase the number of registrations proportionally to family growth.

If you are having to pay more rego than there are drivers for your vehicles then people with collections are being called upon to pay more than their fair share of revenue. Either that or you should get your own slip lane going to work to compensate.

And club plates should not be needed.

Property insurance is a different issue. An insurer would not expect to receive an insurance fee for just the Corolla, and at the same time cover your collection for no addition fee.

What are the holes in my theory? And I don't mean responses like '...there are no cars in Qld that are registerable...'

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Revenue - pure and simple. Based on Stats from last year, there are 19.81 million cars registered in Australia but only a population of around 16 million between the age of 18 and 80 (had to extrapolate that data set a bit but it wouldn't be far off). Not taking into account the small percentage that don't own a car or can't drive, that means there are a lot more cars on the road than people to drive them - so you tax the vehicle, not the person - economics 101. Would love to see it change but it never will. The other point that could be made is the vehicle need to be tracked for road worthy purposes, etc - which is true in NSW but you could still have a plate on a car and have it 'registered' but only have to pay the insurance for TAC, etc once as a driver - I'll keep dreaming...

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Originally Posted by Homestar

Revenue - pure and simple. Based on Stats from last year, there are 19.81 million cars registered in Australia but only a population of around 16 million between the age of 18 and 80 (had to extrapolate that data set a bit but it wouldn't be far off). Not taking into account the small percentage that don't own a car or can't drive, that means there are a lot more cars on the road than people to drive them - so you tax the vehicle, not the person - economics 101. Would love to see it change but it never will. The other point that could be made is the vehicle need to be tracked for road worthy purposes, etc - which is true in NSW but you could still have a plate on a car and have it 'registered' but only have to pay the insurance for TAC, etc once as a driver - I'll keep dreaming...

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There's three drivers in our household and 5 fully registered vehicles, although the Defer is on primary producer rego which equates to a few hundred dollars saved. Our High water mark was three cars and two bikes for two people, but there's a Jeep CJ10 in the shed that might either go primary producers or club rego in the next few months.

Regards,

Tote