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    I remember an article in the news when the permit system changed a few years back, there was a step function in the number of vehicles registered (I think I have the article somewhere).
    Basically lots of people registered every vehicle they had (even if stripped down/incomplete/undergoing resto) before a roady was required (Club Safety Officer could sign the vehicle off).

    I run a Club and VicRoads haven't sent any information out regarding this change so I'll dig around and see what I can find. If it's true I guess anyone with a vehicle 25 to 29 years old on the system already isn't affected, about to put the Defender on 'Club' so that might delay things for a couple of years.

    At the local Trash & Treasure at the weekend was a regular trader in a van on Club Plates, not sure that this is legit.
    As already suggested, I think a lot of people don't fill in their logbooks, expensive if you're caught as you're driving an unregistered vehicle. My son was stopped in his Corolla and he had his logbook filled in (I've threatened that if he gets caught out he gets his membership cancelled !) but nobody else in the Club has ever been stopped.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    I remember an article in the news when the permit system changed a few years back, there was a step function in the number of vehicles registered (I think I have the article somewhere).
    Basically lots of people registered every vehicle they had (even if stripped down/incomplete/undergoing resto) before a roady was required (Club Safety Officer could sign the vehicle off).

    I run a Club and VicRoads haven't sent any information out regarding this change so I'll dig around and see what I can find. If it's true I guess anyone with a vehicle 25 to 29 years old on the system already isn't affected, about to put the Defender on 'Club' so that might delay things for a couple of years.

    At the local Trash & Treasure at the weekend was a regular trader in a van on Club Plates, not sure that this is legit.
    As already suggested, I think a lot of people don't fill in their logbooks, expensive if you're caught as you're driving an unregistered vehicle. My son was stopped in his Corolla and he had his logbook filled in (I've threatened that if he gets caught out he gets his membership cancelled !) but nobody else in the Club has ever been stopped.


    Colin
    I don't really buy this at all. There is countless cars on club permits these day..... So why do I hardly ever see one through winter? .... Sure, I have no doubts there is occoasional person that take advanatage of the scheme. Who knows, they may have even found a set of club plates that don't even belong to there car to use. Don't let it worry you .... its the polices job to worry about these people. Enjoy you car, enjoy seeing other poeples car around and get on with life .... I spotted a 120Y last year on club plugs and thought "you bloody rippa ... haven't seen one of those things on the road in years".

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    Why shouldn't one of my work collegues old VN commonbore allowed to be on a club permit.
    Because there's nothing special about it.

    Like I said, it's not a cut-price rego scheme for old cars, it's supposed to be for cars that belong to collectors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arapiles View Post
    Because there's nothing special about it.

    Like I said, it's not a cut-price rego scheme for old cars, it's supposed to be for cars that belong to collectors.

    "Victoria’s club permit scheme allows members of vehicle clubs that are recognised by VicRoads to make limited non-commercial use of eligible historic vehicles on the road network."

    I'm sorry, what part of that states that the car has to be in some way "special". Provided the club that you join supports your membership and follows the rules then why shouldn't you be able to register your vehicle, regardless of what it is. Pretending that a MG is in some way better than a Holden is a a boat load of elitist crap, that's why people leave car clubs, because they are sick of other members trying to tell them what to do.

    NSW has a similar system and it has visibly increased the number of old and interesting cars of all descriptions on the roads which is a great thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tote View Post
    "Victoria’s club permit scheme allows members of vehicle clubs that are recognised by VicRoads to make limited non-commercial use of eligible historic vehicles on the road network."

    I'm sorry, what part of that states that the car has to be in some way "special". Provided the club that you join supports your membership and follows the rules then why shouldn't you be able to register your vehicle, regardless of what it is. Pretending that a MG is in some way better than a Holden is a a boat load of elitist crap, that's why people leave car clubs, because they are sick of other members trying to tell them what to do

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    Elitism doesn't come into it at all - it's the difference between a flogged-out and uncared for Commodore that's next trip is to the crusher vs a cared-for VC SL/E or one of the Country pack models, or for that matter the old Hillmans I used to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    I don't really buy this at all. There is countless cars on club permits these day..... So why do I hardly ever see one through winter? .... Sure, I have no doubts there is occoasional person that take advanatage of the scheme. Who knows, they may have even found a set of club plates that don't even belong to there car to use. Don't let it worry you .... its the polices job to worry about these people. Enjoy you car, enjoy seeing other poeples car around and get on with life .... I spotted a 120Y last year on club plugs and thought "you bloody rippa ... haven't seen one of those things on the road in years".
    Not quite sure what you "don't buy".
    Lots of additional vehicles were put onto the permit system before the change, most are not assembled/running so you wouldn't see them on the road, summer or winter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arapiles View Post
    Elitism doesn't come into it at all - it's the difference between a flogged-out and uncared for Commodore that's next trip is to the crusher vs a cared-for VC SL/E or one of the Country pack models, or for that matter the old Hillmans I used to have.
    I run a tatty Series III shorty that looks like it's just been dragged from a hedge......
    If it's a clapped out Commodore they may just be a Commodore fan (they do exist I believe) so you can't judge purely on what the vehicle looks like.
    I realise that some people see it as a way of having discount rego, they aren't interested in whether it's a classic or not. If they rort the system, which isn't well policed, then if/when they get caught for not filling in their logbook the fine is over $700 plus they cause the Club involved to potentially be investigated which may cause them more problems.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SPROVER View Post
    Until 5 years time when they decide to make it 50 years.Vic Red Plate SchemeVic Red Plate Scheme
    They’ll be over 50 in 5 years time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post

    I run a Club and VicRoads haven't sent any information out regarding this change so I'll dig around and see what I can find. If it's true I guess anyone with a vehicle 25 to 29 years old on the system already isn't affected, about to put the Defender on 'Club' so that might delay things for a couple of years.

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    Just found this VicRoads Club Permit Scheme : Hi All, Some of you may be aware of some proposed changes coming to CPS. Details as circulated by the Association of Motoring Clubs (AOMC) below: **From: **"Association of Motoring Clubs (AOMC)" <secretary@aomc.asn.au> *

    Seems like a lot of changes were proposed last year but held back due to Covid.

    Things like an inspection at VicRoads before getting a permit might tighten things up.
    Plates have been free but there will now be a charge.
    New offence - if your logbook is not completed there is a fine but you're not charged with driving an unregistered vehicle (this makes it less risk for those rorting the system surely ?).

    Only quickly read the details but nothing about change to 30 years for eligability.

    Now need to track down an updated version, I'll speak to a mate in an AOMC affiliated Club.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arapiles View Post
    Because there's nothing special about it.

    Like I said, it's not a cut-price rego scheme for old cars, it's supposed to be for cars that belong to collectors.
    And this is the exact reason I can't stand a lot of club people. So because YOU don't care about them.... They aren't collectable ..... I can assure you, a VN v8 5pd (like my work colleague has) is far more collectable than nearly any pre-1930's car and most likely far more sought after.

    The trouble with the pre-50's cars these days ..... is the people that grew up in the back seats of them are dying off. The next generation isn't anywhere near as interested. They want to cars they grew up in the back seat of and have memories of. Have you seen what old HQ holdens sell for these days?

    This is the EXACT attitude that has absolutely no place in any classic car scheme or car club.
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