Thread: Vic Red Plate Scheme

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

And this is the exact reason I can't stand a lot of club people. So because YOU don't care about them.... They aren't collectable ..... I can assure you, a VN v8 5pd (like my work colleague has) is far more collectable than nearly any pre-1930's car and most likely far more sought after.

The trouble with the pre-50's cars these days ..... is the people that grew up in the back seats of them are dying off. The next generation isn't anywhere near as interested. They want to cars they grew up in the back seat of and have memories of. Have you seen what old HQ holdens sell for these days?

This is the EXACT attitude that has absolutely no place in any classic car scheme or car club.

I agree, people love the cars, music they grew up with, so I think car clubs should have a category like "Modern Classic" for cars that don't fit into the Veteran, Vintage, Classic, etc categories to keep the younger generation/s interested in joining.

Hi,
If the aim of the scheme is to reduce the costs of a limited use vehicle vs a vehicle in regular use, then surely a registration cost based on distance travelled should apply to all vehicles nation wide?
Or am I dreaming?
Cheers

Originally Posted by austastar

Hi,
If the aim of the scheme is to reduce the costs of a limited use vehicle vs a vehicle in regular use, then surely a registration cost based on distance travelled should apply to all vehicles nation wide?
Or am I dreaming?
Cheers

Yes, its absolutely nuts for a population the size of australia to have eight different government departments for most things. There should be one single "austrlian roads" entity. Its ludicrous that every state has its own licensing and registration departments.

They should just pick one (victoria ... our setup is best with 3rd party insurance a part of the registration) and make it national.

Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

I agree, people love the cars, music they grew up with, so I think car clubs should have a category like "Modern Classic" for cars that don't fit into the Veteran, Vintage, Classic, etc categories to keep the younger generation/s interested in joining.

In Qld a few years back we had different plates for the different category's , then they combined them into Special Interest Plated (S plates) to cover all, to cut the cost of making different plates for different category's. Unfortunately with this the plates went from a Sq plate approx 200mm Sq that suited a S1 rear to a normal length plate that stuck out the side of the tub about 25mm.
My Classic plates plates.jpg I then put on full rego for a while & when I went back onto Club Rego received these plates IMAG1440.jpg
IMAG1441.jpg I then took the PPQ plates off my BMW & changed the colour to black & white !cid_f_kkkxusnt2Arthur7.jpg These are a better fit.

Originally Posted by austastar

Hi,
If the aim of the scheme is to reduce the costs of a limited use vehicle vs a vehicle in regular use, then surely a registration cost based on distance travelled should apply to all vehicles nation wide?
Or am I dreaming?
Cheers

Back in the 80's, the them Premier of Vic, John Cain, floated a scheme where rego and TAC costs would be paid by a levy at the pump, so, user pays. Predictably, none of the States could agree on anything re this scheme, so it died. Now, if rego was a Federal thing......

If car clubs aren't your thing, or if there is no specific club you want to join and you don't have the desire to form one of your own, then Victorian Red Plate Club Inc might be the answer. No politics, no BS, no meetings, and certainly none of the "that's not a classic" snobbery demonstrated in some of the posts here. Just a desire to help folk enjoy the car THEY believe is worth preserving.

The CPS is not cheap rego, if you pay full rego (Vic) it's around $1.65 - 1.90 per day (country prices and based on seating/TAC cost), and the CPS works out $1.71 per day for a forty five day permit.
We have two motorcycles, a motor home, and three Land Rovers on the Vic scheme, the oldest vehicle being 1963 Series 2A and the youngest being a 1988 110 Perentie, so all well over thirty years.
We are motor vehicle enthusiasts, we are not cheap-skating, we also have three vehicles on full rego, plus tractors, four trailers.
There is no way we would pay full registration fees for any of the six vehicles we have on the Permit Scheme, we either wouldn't have them, or they would just travel on a trailer to car shows, etc.
The Club Permit Scheme definitely has to inject a lot of money into the economy.
When building up a vehicle or preparing it for the Club Permit, there are expenses like parts, repairs, upholstering, paint jobs, roadworthy certificates, etc.....and then there is the use of the vehicle, fuel, accommodation, restaurants, etc, etc.
Most of our vehicles wouldn't get ten entries a year in the log book, and a fair portion of those entries would be a five kay run up the road and back to pump the oil around, and keep the hydraulics alive, so they are hardly wearing the bitumen out.

Most owners of vehicles on the CPS very rarely get to fill one or two pages of their logbook in per year.
I know there are those that "rort" the system, but they need to be addressed individually.

As for what's a suitable vehicle for the scheme, who cares if it's an 80 inch Landy, a VN Commodore, or an XF Falcon, that's up to individual preference, so long as it meets VicRoads criteria for eligibility.


Its all here Gents:

The extracts below are from the engage.vic.gov website.

Cheers, Mick.

• requirements for certificates of roadworthiness
• club permit fees being adjusted to align with the pro rata of light vehicle registration fees
• repairable Write Offs (RWOs)
• the potential use of an electronic logbook for the Club Permit Scheme
• the classification of motor trikes and golf carts
• registration of light trailers.

An increase to eligible vehicle age
An increase in the age of vehicles in the Club Permit Scheme is proposed from 25 years to 30 years. This will go further to support the intent of the scheme and will align requirements in Victoria with that of some other jurisdictions.

The regulations are expected to come into effect in October 2021.
It is anticipated that any of the proposed regulatory reforms will be introduced progressively, via the amendments to the Regulations, over 12 to 24 months from the commencement of the Regulations in October 2021. The progressive implementation of any reforms will allow for transition within the industry and the public after the finalisation of the reforms following the public consultation phase.

Details relating to any delayed commencement dates and transition periods will be made available when the final Regulations have been determined.



https://engage.vic.gov.au/

Originally Posted by Tins

Back in the 80's, the them Premier of Vic, John Cain, floated a scheme where rego and TAC costs would be paid by a levy at the pump, so, user pays. Predictably, none of the States could agree on anything re this scheme, so it died. Now, if rego was a Federal thing......

I would like to see the TAC component removed from the vehicle registration fee and put onto the Drivers License fee, as it doesn't matter how many cars you own, you can only drive one at a time.

For people with one car this would be much the same, but for those with multiple vehicles, it would work out cheaper.
I cant ever see it happening though, as the "motorised vehicle" is a wonderful source of income for the Governments of our country, ie rego fees, fuel tax, tolls, fines, etc, etc.

Cheers, Mick.