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The thread is about using rodenticides that don't cause collateral damage to native animals (birds of prey mostly) so they and their progeny can safely eat more rats and mice to their hearts content into the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by laney
No one likes cruelty, even with pest animals.
DL
There are a lot more birds of prey around than people might think. I live in the suburbs, although there is a lot of bush near me and the other day I saw a falcon flying low above my house, trying to scare up some pigeons I think, and this morning I could hear an owl hooting when I was in my front garden.Quote:
Originally Posted by 350RRC
You claim to be concerned about cruelty and yet you hunt with a compound bow instead of a rifle.Quote:
Originally Posted by laney
No matter how good you are with a bow it will Never be as accurate or as effective as a rifle for humanly dispatching prey or pests.
At my place in the middle of the Bellarine there were swamp harriers, kites, kestrels, etc around every day 10 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by RANDLOVER
Have seen 2 kites in the four months.
If you care about birds of prey and other native animals, choose only products with WARFARIN (‘Double Strength’ Ratsak) or COUMATETRALYL (Racumin) as the active ingredients.Quote:
Originally Posted by V8Ian
When looking for poison baits for mice and rats DO NOT BUY products containing Brodifacoum, Bromadiolone, Difenacoum, Difethialone, or Flocoumafen.
Be aware that some brands of rodenticides have different versions of product, so looking at the label for the active ingredient is pretty essential.
All the ‘bad’ ones have ‘POISON’ written at the top of the label and words like ‘fast action’ or ‘quick kill’ written somewhere.
cheers, DL
Yes tout1105 I do use a compound bow you suggest it's a cruel death I say no as with a rifle if you are a bad shot the animal will suffer I can drop a wild dog or pig every bit as fast as a person with a gun you obviously have never used a good compound bow or have little to no knowledge of how to use them. I have reread my original post what I said was 1080 is just a cruel way to kill an animal it also has a lot of secondary kills as native animals eat the poisoned bodies' my compound bow does not have any secondary kills .
If you have ever hunted with a good bow hunter you would know that is incorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by trout1105
I have seen so called good shooters cause more cruelty than a good bow hunter.
I am ex Army (Infrantry) and my bullets go Exacly where I aim them.Quote:
Originally Posted by scarry
Small animals small calibre bigger animals bigger calibre easy and more importantly hunane.
I have had to euthanize at least half a dozen roos here with arrows hanging out of them from bow hunters in this Area.
Yes there are some crap hunters out there that should NEVER be allowed to hunt with either bow or a rifle But at least with a rifle it is licensed and policed.
Anyone can buy a bow[bigwhistle]
A well placed round will be Far more efficiant than a well placed arrow anyday
We will have to agree to disagree.[biggrin]Quote:
Originally Posted by trout1105
Sounds like there are some amateur bow hunters in your area.
Hopefully they won’t get hold of firearms,as the results could be worse.
Sounds like kids using target arrows.
Hunting arrows in the hands of a good bowman are easily as effective as a rifle (just got to get a bit closer).
Personally I prefer my rifles. [emoji41]
Infantry hey [emoji41] Did you get those crossed rifles? Ever try for sniper? [emoji41]
I loved my L1A1, enjoyed the Steyr… and absolutely adore my 6.5CM (calibre now become one of a few used by US snipers)