Thread: Rodent baits and their effect on native fauna

Originally Posted by 350RRC

The thread is about using rodenticides that don't cause collateral damage to native animals (birds of prey mostly) so they and their progeny can safely eat more rats and mice to their hearts content into the future.

No one likes cruelty, even with pest animals.

DL

There are a lot more birds of prey around than people might think. I live in the suburbs, although there is a lot of bush near me and the other day I saw a falcon flying low above my house, trying to scare up some pigeons I think, and this morning I could hear an owl hooting when I was in my front garden.

Originally Posted by laney

1080 is just cruel if you ever see an animal dying of this stuff it a death I wouldn't wish on anything I hunt with a compound bow I have yet to find anything my bow can't bring down I will eat most what I shoot or the dog gets a feed. Having said that foxes are left where they die.

You claim to be concerned about cruelty and yet you hunt with a compound bow instead of a rifle.
No matter how good you are with a bow it will Never be as accurate or as effective as a rifle for humanly dispatching prey or pests.

Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

There are a lot more birds of prey around than people might think. I live in the suburbs, although there is a lot of bush near me and the other day I saw a falcon flying low above my house, trying to scare up some pigeons I think, and this morning I could hear an owl hooting when I was in my front garden.

At my place in the middle of the Bellarine there were swamp harriers, kites, kestrels, etc around every day 10 years ago.

Have seen 2 kites in the four months.

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Are Bromadiolone and Warfarin the same chemical, or different with the same result?

If you care about birds of prey and other native animals, choose only products with WARFARIN (‘Double Strength’ Ratsak) or COUMATETRALYL (Racumin) as the active ingredients.

When looking for poison baits for mice and rats DO NOT BUY products containing Brodifacoum, Bromadiolone, Difenacoum, Difethialone, or Flocoumafen.

Be aware that some brands of rodenticides have different versions of product, so looking at the label for the active ingredient is pretty essential.

All the ‘bad’ ones have ‘POISON’ written at the top of the label and words like ‘fast action’ or ‘quick kill’ written somewhere.

cheers, DL

Yes tout1105 I do use a compound bow you suggest it's a cruel death I say no as with a rifle if you are a bad shot the animal will suffer I can drop a wild dog or pig every bit as fast as a person with a gun you obviously have never used a good compound bow or have little to no knowledge of how to use them. I have reread my original post what I said was 1080 is just a cruel way to kill an animal it also has a lot of secondary kills as native animals eat the poisoned bodies' my compound bow does not have any secondary kills .

Originally Posted by trout1105

You claim to be concerned about cruelty and yet you hunt with a compound bow instead of a rifle.
No matter how good you are with a bow it will Never be as accurate or as effective as a rifle for humanly dispatching prey or pests.

If you have ever hunted with a good bow hunter you would know that is incorrect.

I have seen so called good shooters cause more cruelty than a good bow hunter.

Originally Posted by scarry

If you have ever hunted with a good bow hunter you would know that is incorrect.

I have seen so called good shooters cause more cruelty than a good bow hunter.

I am ex Army (Infrantry) and my bullets go Exacly where I aim them.
Small animals small calibre bigger animals bigger calibre easy and more importantly hunane.
I have had to euthanize at least half a dozen roos here with arrows hanging out of them from bow hunters in this Area.

Yes there are some crap hunters out there that should NEVER be allowed to hunt with either bow or a rifle But at least with a rifle it is licensed and policed.
Anyone can buy a bow
A well placed round will be Far more efficiant than a well placed arrow anyday

Originally Posted by trout1105

A well placed round will be Far more efficiant than a well placed arrow anyday

We will have to agree to disagree.

Sounds like there are some amateur bow hunters in your area.
Hopefully they won’t get hold of firearms,as the results could be worse.