Disco 1 days are numbered - which dual cab ute?

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Originally Posted by edddo

Maybe I could join the local mens shed and turn my D1 into this Overland Canopy Build - The Final Push - YouTube :-)
Go to about the 15 minute mark for a look at the finished product.

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Good Job! You'd need deep pockets though I reckon.

The VM engine was used as it fitted UK and European tax bands not because it was a great engine but better than anything Land Rover had at the time

They were an engine builder who sold on to manufactures. GM picked up their technology for their Diesel engines. Think they were bought out by FIAT

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Interesting that using a dual cab to tow anything heavier than about 2500kg is considered a bad idea by various motoring experts including Robert Pepper, John Cadogan and ASPW, even if they are rated to up to 3500kg.
They seem happier about using wagons such as the Land cruiser, Patrol, Discovery, Defender etc to tow closer to 3500kg, I assume because a wagon has more of the weight ahead of the rear wheels than a ute does.
So if you're planning to tow anything over about 2500kg a wagon seems the way to go.
A Defender 130 would be an exception to that, as they are excellent for towing heavy trailers.

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Its a no brainer ... if you want to tow over 3tons .... you want a light truck. something heavier than a 4wd for sure. The Dodge rams and for Fseries fit the bill perfectly. Its gonna suck backing into a park at a caravan park with something that is 15meters long and has the turning circle of a cruise ship though [bigrolf] Those american utes are amazing what they can tow as 5th wheelers.

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Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

Its a no brainer ... if you want to tow over 3tons .... you want a light truck. something heavier than a 4wd for sure. The Dodge rams and for Fseries fit the bill perfectly. Its gonna suck backing into a park at a caravan park with something that is 15meters long and has the turning circle of a cruise ship though [bigrolf] Those american utes are amazing what they can tow as 5th wheelers.

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The 1500 RAm isnt much better than a slightly modded LC200,its the 2500 that is the go for the big loads.

But those that have them are having quite a few issues,including difficulty getting parts.And fitting into normal sized parking lots.[tonguewink]
They definitely dont have the quality and reliability of the Jap/Thia/Korean vehicles(that wont do the job of the 2500 anyway)[wink11]

Does the above make sense,propabaly not,anyway, back to this nice and cold Rum 'n Coke.[bighmmm]

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Originally Posted by scarry

The 1500 RAm isnt much better than a slightly modded LC200,its the 2500 that is the go for the big loads.

But those that have them are having quite a few issues,including difficulty getting parts.And fitting into normal sized parking lots.[tonguewink]
They definitely dont have the quality and reliability of the Jap/Thia/Korean vehicles(that wont do the job of the 2500 anyway)[wink11]

Does the above make sense,propabaly not,anyway, back to this nice and cold Rum 'n Coke.[bighmmm]

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Its weird how things change. I'd have an american car anytime these days ... even a jeep. You see... ebay ..... anything and everything is cheap. The issue is we can only buy new and very expensive Rams and Fseries. There is no 15year old utes out there for us tinkerers.

https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/ima...s-152426_1.jpg

they are basically a medium rigid truck when it comes to tow capacity in 5th wheel.

We may have veered slightly from the thread gist😁

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Originally Posted by edddo

We may have veered slightly from the thread gist😁

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I thought it morphed into 'I'm buying a Navara' pages ago.

Truly hope it goes well, DL

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Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

Its weird how things change. I'd have an american car anytime these days ... even a jeep. You see... ebay ..... anything and everything is cheap. The issue is we can only buy new and very expensive Rams and Fseries. There is no 15year old utes out there for us tinkerers.

https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/ima...s-152426_1.jpg

they are basically a medium rigid truck when it comes to tow capacity in 5th wheel.

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I'll bet it's not running 10% ball weight. The magic figure with no science.

DL

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Originally Posted by edddo

We may have veered slightly from the thread gist😁

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Gotta love AULRO, it's a magical mystery tour sometimes.[smilebigeye]

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Originally Posted by 350RRC

I'll bet it's not running 10% ball weight. The magic figure with no science.

DL

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its a 5th wheeler so should tow like a semi. The hitch should be slightlyl forward of the rear axle. Bugger 10% ... you could have a couple of tons on that hitch quite safely (if its a two ton rated ute). 5th wheelers are what every heavy towed vehicle should be!