Disco 1 days are numbered - which dual cab ute?

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23rd August 2021, 10:44 AM
Homestar

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Originally Posted by OldGuy

I had a 76, great touring vehicle but on rough roads it was not fun at all, very harsh even with a load on the back would thump and bang an bad corrugations and the different wheel track made it a bit twitchy on these roads. Even though I sound proofed the floor, sides and roof it was still quite noisy. The other downside was that you cant get parabolic springs for the rear as the spring length is shorter than the 79. BUT l did love the V8, solid as a rock.

Having said all that, my D4 is fantastic and love it. Mind you have not had much chance to go touring in the past 18 months..[emoji26]

Geoff

Well yes, it’s hardly in D4 territory. [emoji16]

My comments were around overall road manners compared to a dual cab. Drove one for some time - I’d prefer that over long distances to my Hilux for example.
23rd August 2021, 11:41 AM
bob10

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Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

After much deliberation, I have placed a deposit on an Isuzu D-Max 2021 4x4 SX crew cab Auto., cab/chassis....quote

Bob I think you will do well.

When I sold my D2 and bought the Ranger I thought I might have made a wrong decision , but it was actually a good one.

You will miss everything about the D2 for a while , except from now on , nothing will break ever again and require busted fingernails and contortionism and swearing to assist repair. You wont have to do anything but wash it.

.....and like me , you'll be able to tell others that yes , the Isuzu can tackle just about anything the D2 could....in a little less comfort perhaps.

Bob , see if they will fit all terrain tyres instead of the crappy ones they sell it with.

I still have a partly worn set of original tyres and rims that no one wants to buy.

btw my inlaws just ordered a new Subaru XV and won't get it until Oct/Nov. Seems the norm now.
sides of the tray roof I'm building.
Now we wait for your photos , hahahaha

I have to follow up with A/T tyres with the dealership I chose , but they have been bending over backwards to meet my wishes so far. One dealership refused to fit A/T tyres, so I flicked them. I wanted steel rims, which the Isuzu cab chassis has, but Bob Jane has better ones, coloured. I'm going to talk to Bob Jane Redcliffe to see if I can get a rim /tyre deal,[Trade in the Dunlops ], Get them to match the rims to the colour of the canvas of the side of the tray roof I'm building, to put over the fridge / battery box the steel mob at Brendale have in their shop. Yeah, I'll miss the D2, the 'command driving' position , but I'll actually be able to hear the radio, and the locker at the back of the Isuzu will come in handy. I'm over ' adventure' 4x4 driving, this will get me any where I want to go, in comfort, and safety. Did I tell you about the electric towing mirrors? Mickey Mouse. You know if Land Rover had built a Defender for the average joe, pricewise as well as function wise, they would have had me. And I'm not buying some one else's problems in a 2nd hand over priced defender. [wink11]Even if this falls thru because of COVID, I've gained valuable experience in buying a new car, which will put me in good stead if I have to try again. [smilebigeye]
24th August 2021, 09:34 AM
bob10

This news about the chip industry for new cars is a worry. Toyota has slashed its North American production, and Thailand has shut down its facilities temporarily. And its not all about COVID.

Toyota Finally Slashes North American Production (msn.com)
24th August 2021, 10:17 AM
Homestar

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Originally Posted by bob10

This news about the chip industry for new cars is a worry. Toyota has slashed its North American production, and Thailand has shut down its facilities temporarily. And its not all about COVID.

Toyota Finally Slashes North American Production (msn.com)

It’s only a worry if you need a new car I suppose and even then is just means longer wait times not that you can’t get one. It isn’t a worry at all to me for any reason.
24th August 2021, 10:24 AM
bob10

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Originally Posted by Homestar

It’s only a worry if you need a new car I suppose and even then is just means longer wait times not that you can’t get one. It isn’t a worry at all to me for any reason.

Yeah, I suppose worry often gives small things a big shadow.
26th August 2021, 06:21 PM
edddo

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Originally Posted by OldGuy

I had a 76, great touring vehicle but on rough roads it was not fun at all, very harsh even with a load on the back would thump and bang an bad corrugations and the different wheel track made it a bit twitchy on these roads. Even though I sound proofed the floor, sides and roof it was still quite noisy. The other downside was that you cant get parabolic springs for the rear as the spring length is shorter than the 79. BUT l did love the V8, solid as a rock.

Having said all that, my D4 is fantastic and love it. Mind you have not had much chance to go touring in the past 18 months..😥

Geoff

None of that sounds too good to me.
But you can get parabolic springs for 76’s at Terrain Tamer according to cuurent catalog and based on what I have read they do seem to offer a very significant improvement to standard leaf packs.
26th August 2021, 06:26 PM
edddo

Re the wheel track issue on the 76.
I see that one way to deal with that is to have a suitable offset wheel (-50?) on the rear.
Seems a reasonable and easy fix.
Issues with wheel bearings or wheel studs maybe?
26th August 2021, 07:27 PM
AK83

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Originally Posted by edddo

Re the wheel track issue on the 76.
I see that one way to deal with that is to have a suitable offset wheel (-50?) on the rear.
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I'm fairly sure that this would be illegal without engineering.
Can't remember, but maybe 25mm max offset is allowable from manufactured specs .. otherwise requires engineered axles mods like they do for the 70 series chassis.

Also, what spare wheel would you carry if rears were offest by so much, and if the front wheel was carried as the spare, how would that affect a heavily loaded vehicle(in a remote area) if this was used for the rear?
26th August 2021, 07:43 PM
rar110

Disco 1 days are numbered - which dual cab ute?

From what Ive read, lots of people run them with different offset wheels to correct the track difference. I would just spend the money and fix it.

Toyota widened the front track to accomodate the TDV8 4.5, but still make/sell the 70 series with the 1HZ 4.2 straight six diesel, for other countries. That’s probably why they don’t produce a rear axle for our country.

Google HZJR/R-RKMRS and you find a Toyota dealer in Africa or Asia selling them new.
26th August 2021, 08:03 PM
V8Ian

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Originally Posted by AK83

I'm fairly sure that this would be illegal without engineering.
Can't remember, but maybe 25mm max offset is allowable from manufactured specs .. otherwise requires engineered axles mods like they do for the 70 series chassis.

Also, what spare wheel would you carry if rears were offest by so much, and if the front wheel was carried as the spare, how would that affect a heavily loaded vehicle(in a remote area) if this was used for the rear?

I wondered about that too, Arthur, but figured a front wheel would suffice, in an emergency.

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