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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    How much do you love your D1? Is the body and interior in good condition? Enough to drop to serious coin on it to bring the driveline up to modern standards?

    How about an LS3 and 6 speed auto? This is the conversion I’m toying with for my RRC. Depending on what you want done engine, box and engineering runs around $35K. Add the front and rear driveline and you’ll be in around $50K - same as a new Dual cab. Heaps better ride and brand new drive line.

    Go the whole hog and double that for the rest of the vehicle to be bought up to better than new (now I’m dreaming) but I’m seriously considering the rest.

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    Over the last 6 years or so I have spent well in excess of 20k on repairs/upgrades on my D2a and now the Only original part of the vehicle now is the front diff/body/interior.

    Yes it IS a 17 year old 4WD But Most of the bits that I need to rely on are a much younger vintage and I have absolutely No qualms in taking it to remote areas solo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arapiles View Post
    RE the D4, there are plenty of 2015/2016 models around with under 50,000 kms - pretty much new.
    Thats around the age and k's mine started to have issues,so thanks, but no thanks.

    Sure they were silly issues,mainly EPB and EAS issues,but still frustrating and a PITA.

    And yes the vehicle was serviced correctly,probably over serviced due to the low K's.

    Anyway,each to their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    This is what the OP is looking for and the Hilux ticks ALL of his boxes.

    Yes there IS a premium when you buy a Toyota product But unlike most of their competitors (JLR included) there is also a premium to be had when you trade/sell the Toyota product AND the Isuzu is also gaining a lot of respect in the second hand market.
    It kinda depends on which model you purchase.
    My eldest son bought a new "poverty model" Hilux Dual Cab 4WD diesel in January 2020. About $45k from memory.
    Jeez it rides badly, I couldn't put up with it. Bouncy bounce.
    The addition of an (approx) 150kg fibreglass canopy didn't soften the ride much.

    My other son has a Navara 4WD Dual Cab of similar age and spec. Rides far better and the tranny is nicer.
    Resale probably not as good as the Hilux, but he didn't pay "Toyota Tax" in the first place.

    If I were to buy one it'd be the V6 Amarok, the only one with rear disc brakes, and serious hp and grunt, plus the 8 speed ZF same as late Disco 4 and others.

    Talking about re-sale, but slightly off subject, I worked out the other day that with the current 'asking' prices of Series 1,2, 2a and 3 L/rovers, they are asking anywhere between 5 and 45 TIMES their original prices!!....... try and beat THAT Toyota!!
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    Amarok as above would be my pick of the dual cabs

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3toes View Post
    Amarok as above would be my pick of the dual cabs
    No low range is a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edddo View Post
    No low range is a problem.
    "reliable remote touring, good off road for hi country trips and"

    Don't see why, for this? From all reports, their 1st gear ratio is quite low and adequate.

    A bloke I know has a 'Rok and I've accompanied/ played safety vehicle for him, while he towed his 20' van to Cathedrals and Dundubara camp grounds, on Fraser.
    My recovery services have never been required.
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    I’d be more worried about it being a VW or a Ford clone. Disco 1 days are numbered - which dual cab ute?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitch View Post
    "reliable remote touring, good off road for hi country trips and"

    Don't see why, for this? From all reports, their 1st gear ratio is quite low and adequate.

    A bloke I know has a 'Rok and I've accompanied/ played safety vehicle for him, while he towed his 20' van to Cathedrals and Dundubara camp grounds, on Fraser.
    My recovery services have never been required.
    No low range is a pain in the ass if you have to reverse or do any sustained slow stuff. Very easy to overheat the transmission. You can get the V6 with a manual box and low range. This would be fine if you didn't want an auto. The Amarok has 5 star ANCAP but it is 2011 ANCAP and it would be 2 or 3 star ANCAP today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geedublya View Post
    No low range is a pain in the ass if you have to reverse or do an sustained slow stuff. Very easy to overheat the transmission. You can get the V6 with a manual box and low range. This would be fine if you didn't want an auto. The Amarok has 5 star ANCAP but it is 2011 ANCAP and it would be 2 or 3 star ANCAP today.
    Tranny cooler?
    Can't say my mate has had any problems with heat and dragging a van up the beach for 70 odd km, isn't all beer and skittles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    Over the last 6 years or so I have spent well in excess of 20k on repairs/upgrades on my D2a and now the Only original part of the vehicle now is the front diff/body/interior.

    Yes it IS a 17 year old 4WD But Most of the bits that I need to rely on are a much younger vintage and I have absolutely No qualms in taking it to remote areas solo
    I have had a similar experience with my 1999 D2. It's like grand dads axe, still original, but the main bits have been replaced , some more than once. It has 435,000 KM's on it, the plastic bits inside are falling apart, and recently I had another gearbox issue. So, I decided to bite the bullet and investigate a replacement. The decision I made was either a Mazda BT50, or a Isuzu D-Max. The BT50 is just a rebadged D-Max, with the same drive train and engine and suspension. I spent the better part of a week going from the Isuzu dealer to the Mazda dealer, and found out dealers will tell you anything , in order to get a sale. Or , perhaps I should say they will tell you what you want to hear , not necessarily what you need to know, if that makes sense.

    Having read Whiting's Outback Travel Australia critique of the Isuzu, where the vehicle could do with an aftermarket suspension upgrade, I mentioned this to the Isuzu dealer, only to be told to do that will void the warranty. He then went on to describe how other aftermarket additions have had the warranty voided in the past. Fair enough, good to know. I was told I couldn't get a Freestyle cab tray back from Isuzu , it had to be a styleside cab. I could get a Freestyle trayback from BT50, but no so called ' suicide " seats in the back, as it voids the ANCAP safety rating. Fair enough, good to know. Interestingly, the warranty for the Isuzu is 6 years with capped priced servicing, while the BT50 is 5 years and no capped price.

    Long story short, I've decided to hang on to the old D2, keep up my 10,000KM servicing, get under and check more often, and upgrade my RACQ roadside assistance package. Oh, and cross my fingers.

    BTW, in case it helps some one I will leave the Link to Allan Whiting's 'Outback Travel Australia " buyers guide to Utes and cab chassis , medium, for their perusal. There are links to other vehicles in the article.

    Utes & Cab Chassis - Medium - Outback Travel Australia
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