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    Somethings you don't ask on Face book.

    With the talk lately about recognition of the Indigenous people of this land, and the reference to the traditional owners on Government sites etc.
    So I asked a question on the local community facebook group on the local Shire
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    The question was asking opinions in regards to whether to rename the shire in recognition of the original indigenous people.

    Well it went viral, I had about 180 responses in 18 mins, and growing rapidly every few seconds.
    . There were many that liked the idea but there were many that didn't and you could see the prejudice coming out in people. So not wanting to start a civil war I decided to delete the post. I did not realise the sentiment of some people in the area I live in. I do live in a 99% white caucasion area and the only multicuturalism around is some 3rd generation Dutchies and Germans in the fresh flower industry, a schmatering of asian run shops.

    There are some things you just don't ask or hint a suggestion.


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    lives in a 99% white caucasion area
    asks question on fb about persecuting white caucasion people

    what could possibly go wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    lives in a 99% white caucasion area
    asks question on fb about persecuting white caucasion people

    what could possibly go wrong?
    How is asking if a name could/should/might be changed persecuting anyone? Let alone a particular group?
    Such a name change could be a recognition of heritage & thousands of place names in Oz have indigenous origins.
    If folks feel persecuted by it they have the problem I think.
    BTW I feel the same way about changing the name of products that were never intended to offend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonesfam View Post
    How is asking if a name could/should/might be changed persecuting anyone? Let alone a particular group?
    Such a name change could be a recognition of heritage & thousands of place names in Oz have indigenous origins.
    If folks feel persecuted by it they have the problem I think.
    BTW I feel the same way about changing the name of products that were never intended to offend.
    Jonesfam
    the name is only being changed cause its a white name. that's persecution.

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    Mount Corhanwarrabul or Mount Daungwurrung both derived from the Woiwurrung and now is just a smidgen away with the anglicized spelling?


    Names predated most of us. Streets near me had German names. All changed during WW1! Wilhelm, Bismarck and Waldau are foot recent foot notes.

    Original name for Dandenong Creek was Narra Narrawong.
    We all know where that starts with a little rearrangement we have clearly got some current names which are from Woiwurrung .

    Ikara ranges is in my view cool. Captain Matthew Flinders was an English navigator and cartographer yet I bet over a beer he would agree people had names for many of the places he mapped as he had help via Aboriginal translator, Bungaree.

    Bungaree became the first known Aboriginal person to circumnavigate Australia and contribute to the mapping of the Australian coastline with Capt Flinders A few places ring a bell with the names? Postcode 3352 is only 11km from Ballarat's name was derived from two Aboriginal words meaning “resting place”

    Chatted with a 90 year old+ last week who lives in a house older than he is which was on Bismarck st and Waldau lane before lots of new houses hid the beautiful old place names. I will ask him if he knows many of the local place names.

    The haters you met in your post probably have NFI where they live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    the name is only being changed cause its a white name. that's persecution.
    Is the colour of the skin important?
    It may be considered a question of culture but then again the Australian culture is diverse, mixed & diluted, it's is not Anglo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonesfam View Post
    Is the colour of the skin important?
    It may be considered a question of culture but then again the Australian culture is diverse, mixed & diluted, it's is not Anglo.
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    The whole country originally had indigenous names, so why not use them?

    Map of Indigenous Australia | AIATSIS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    the name is only being changed cause its a white name. that's persecution.
    Cambridge dictionary define persecution as unfair or cruel treatment over a long period of time. I think you'll find this is an example of indigenous people having named something which then whitefellas renamed - that's the persecution on show.

    I think it's a great idea personally - renaming areas their proper traditional name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gusthedog View Post
    Cambridge dictionary define persecution as unfair or cruel treatment over a long period of time. I think you'll find this is an example of indigenous people having named something which then whitefellas renamed - that's the persecution on show.

    I think it's a great idea personally - renaming areas their proper traditional name.

    ironic that your using a white culture dictionary lol

    persecution
    /pəːsɪˈkjuːʃn/
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    noun
    hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs; oppression.
    "her family fled religious persecution"

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