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Yep I get that. My point still stands that I would like to see more detail of how deaths particularly in the US get recorded (i think I have been anti conspiracy theory enough on here and pro vax and the significance of Covid to demonstrate that my point is not misguided, flippant or uninformed, thanks). My point comes.from.spending a fair bit of time.over the years looking at what caused people to die. Also, I have very very little trust in much that the US Govt (of any political persuasion) does or says). And for goodness sake we can start asking questions especially of the US without being singled out as a nutter surely.

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Read his book years ago. Wasnt he in his 80's and had cancer...died of C19 might be a stretch. But that is the way the US and others tend to report deaths now. Lots of 90 year olds 'dying' of Covid19...suggested correlation in some cases?. I am not suggesting that Covid 19 cant be a contributor as it certainly can be but i just wonder to what extent it contributes in some cases. There have always been a significant number of elderly with consumptive heart failure and COPD etc who die of respiratory distress naturally with those underlying conditions. I am far from a conspiracy theorist but would like to see the drill down detail of a lot of the deaths in elderly where Covid19 is noted on the Death Cert. Cheers

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All true, but it can't have been a great existence at that stage for them. It isn't just the moment of falling off the twig, it would be the pain, suffering, worry before the next step into the unknown, especially if one wasn't a regular Churchgoer & had a bit of a clue that had been drummed in previously.


In the event it could be all ballcocks but who you going to argue the toss with, the Gatekeeper, & hope they have a Data Base so they can contact you down the track?

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if one wasn't a regular Churchgoer & had a bit of a clue that had been drummed in previously.

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If you haven't been brainwashed by religion, you shouldn't be worrying too much.

I participate in the NZ and Aust Flu tracking survey each week for a few years now. Weekly emails are linked to the survey and you fill it out according to whether you have flu symptoms, or since this pandemic, symptoms related to covid etc. I got a summary email from them today.

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After another long pandemic year, we would like to thank you for your dedication to FluTracking. The next weekly survey will be sent out on Monday morning and you will be offered the option to opt out of surveys over summer.

Your participation has been significant during the COVID-19 pandemic. We hope the following summary provides some interesting insights from our data for 2021:
- You have contributed to over 1.7 million surveys
- Influenza-like illness remains low, but similar to 2020
- 89.8% of participants reported receiving their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination, and over 75.1% reported receiving their second dose
- 59.9% of participants reported receiving an influenza vaccine
- On average per week, 30.5% of participants with fever and cough reported being tested for COVID-19
- Participants under 5 years of age have the highest rates of influenza-like illness
Thanks again,
Flutracking New Zealand
Flutracking.net | Tracking Influenza Across Australia and New Zealand
Public Health Group
Population Health and Prevention
Ministry of Health

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Some interesting stats in there.

They create a comparative graph of the data each week. Not sure if this is NZ and Aust or just NZ though as the title is not specific.

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3115406[/URL]]And for goodness sake we can start asking questions especially of the US without being singled out as a nutter surely.

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That would probably depend on how inane the assumptions and questions are, I would imagine…. [bigwhistle]

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I participate in the NZ and Aust Flu tracking survey each week for a few years now. Weekly emails are linked to the survey and you fill it out according to whether you have flu symptoms, or since this pandemic, symptoms related to covid etc. I got a summary email from them today.



Some interesting stats in there.

They create a comparative graph of the data each week. Not sure if this is NZ and Aust or just NZ though as the title is not specific.

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I was reading the other day that it is believed some strains of the flu have gone extinct due to the covid infection control measures.

Regards,
Tote

Yes. The northern hemisphere looks at the types of flu seen in places like Australia during our winter to see which variant is likely to appear in the following northern winter, but have found that only very few samples are available, simply because there was almost no flu diagnosed here during the winter. And Influenza B, one of the four usual variants in recent years, is totally missing.

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I was reading the other day that it is believed some strains of the flu have gone extinct due to the covid infection control measures.

Regards,
Tote

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Yes, was reading similar here in NZ. I think I recall the article did mention though that as we open up, any flu variant around will likely be hard hitting due to a reduced herd immunity from two seasons of very low 'uptake'. Likely similar to the recent RSV thing that did the rounds here a few months back.

I got hit by that RSV and I was a sick little puppy for a while - it was a doozy! [bigsad]

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That would probably depend on how inane the assumptions and questions are, I would imagine…. [bigwhistle]

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Agreed [emoji16] Good thing I don't make inane assumptions and ask inane questions (unless making informed assumptions and asking pertinent questions hasnt been what I have been paid to do day in and day out for over 30 years [emoji1787]). Anyway, clearly an emotive topic and I will leave it alone for the sake of peace and harmony on this great site.

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Interestingly the ACT is significantly more restricted than NSW still. Maybe there is a level of transmission that is going to occur regardless of the countermeasures and vaccinations and it is between 20-50 per day for Canberra. Had to do a click and collect at Supercheap yesterday whilst I was in town for work and while I was there they very rudely told an old bloke that they wouldn't serve him and it wasn't their problem that he didn't have the ability to order online. As he was leaving I suggested that a visit to Queanbeyan would be the way to solve his problem as long as he had a vaccination certificate.

Regards,
Tote

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Not very nice. [bigsad] Many folk don't necessarily have the means & or the knowledge to order online & whoever told him that needs a good swift one up the arse & then sacked. Certainly should be given a warning & then let nature take it's course.


Young smart arse employee was he?

Supercheap is off my list now. I hope the old feller was placing a huge order.



My worst experience is when they try & make out one is invisible & they keep serving everyone else around you until one raises their voice & asks that Question. Then my feet do the talking.


They forget that one day they too will be elderly & not up with the latest technology, that is if some old pugilistic bugger doesn't stick one on them before then.[bigrolf]