Covid Mk ll

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Originally Posted by Grumbles

But what about the 7 million or so who for what ever reason will not be vaccinated when the arbitrary figure of 70% or 80% of the population are vaccinated and the lock downs/restrictions are withdrawn.
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Why would that 7 million be unvaccinated?

A large percentage of any such number would be kids under 16 years of age, who are unlikely to be affected by any vaccine passport restrictions.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

Until we have EVERYONE vaccinated that possibly can be it will be sheer lunacy to simply let this virus run its course.
IF NSW wants to go down this very dangerous path then there is SFA I can do about it except hope and prey that the WA government keeps this virus locked out of the State until we have Everyone vaccinated and not just 70-80% (Not including kids) like NSW ( and the PM) is espousing.

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Isn’t WA currently the worst state for take up of anti-virus [emoji56]

This variant is coming like a freight train. It’s not if, it’s when.

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

Also reports today of Goulburn residents going to Canberra for their second vaccination being turned back at the ACT border.

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Yes the border is closed to non permit holders who live outside the border bubble and vaccinations are available in NSW. I am sure that no one will be stopped for specialist medical appointments in Canberra.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

Until we have EVERYONE vaccinated that possibly can be it will be sheer lunacy to simply let this virus run its course.
IF NSW wants to go down this very dangerous path then there is SFA I can do about it except hope and prey that the WA government keeps this virus locked out of the State until we have Everyone vaccinated and not just 70-80% (Not including kids) like NSW ( and the PM) is espousing.

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No one is saying just let the virus run its course.

In the National Cabinet Premiers and Chief Ministers signed up to the 70-80% vaccination target for lockdowns to become the exception rather than the rule - other actions are still available. Some leaders have since taken a different stand. The Treasurer has indicated that States who do not abide by the agreements made in National Cabinet (noting that these may also change over time) after the 70-80% vaccinated target has been reached may have levels of funding removed from that State or Territory until they comply.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Isn’t WA currently the worst state for take up of anti-virus [emoji56]

This variant is coming like a freight train. It’s not if, it’s when.

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WA has already had Delta cases But unlike some other States the lockdowns actually worked[biggrin][thumbsupbig]
We also have the Nullabor and the Great sandy desert beween us and the (apparantly) unstoppable outbreaks in the East[thumbsupbig][bigrolf]

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The Treasurer has indicated that States who do not abide by the agreements made in National Cabinet (noting that these may also change over time) after the 70-80% vaccinated target has been reached may have levels of funding removed from that State or Territory until they comply.

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What is to stop the States/Territories from witholding the mineral royalties that the Federal government is so reliant on to make up the shortfall in funding.
Bullying the various States/Territories by the Fedral Government with a finacial bullwhip could prove to be a finacial disaster Federally.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

I imagine that they are getting top notch medical advice, However that advice has to be altered to suit the political agenda/ambition of the various State premiers and the PM himself and this is why each State is following its own path out of this pandemic.

You only have to look at which States are doing a better job of controlling the COV19 outbreaks to see which premiers are following the medical advisors and not the political advisors[thumbsupbig]

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Just saw a headline " Gladys says Zero covid is impossible."
Qld had a delta outbreak, up to 15,000 people in home quarantine, we now have zero covid , has been for a few days now. Not sure how many are in home quarantine now, but last looked, it was just over 1,000.Covid zero is possible, but probably impossible to stay like that, with delta. It doesn't help when just over the border they have completely lost control , and think that should be the new norm. I have been wondering , do the people advocating opening up under these circumstances have children under 16? I wonder.

I fear Victoria won’t be able to beat this third wave either. Too many people now ignoring the rules and too many cases in the community whilst infected.

If daily cases pass 100 we will be locked down for the rest of 2021 or until the level of vaccinations bring this back under control.

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Originally Posted by bob10

Here ya go. I have no words.

Zero COVID 'just not possible', NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian says (msn.com)

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This is what happens when you have a lunatic running the asylum[bigwhistle]

Why is it that just because the NSW government can't/won't get this outbreak under control and yet other States/Territories can and do get the infections under control Aunty Glad is convinced that ALL of Australia Must get infected because she just wants to give up because she is finding it too hard???

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Originally Posted by trout1105

WA has already had Delta cases But unlike some other States the lockdowns actually worked[biggrin][thumbsupbig]

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Look, I'm as WA as the rest of us, but we've had a false-positive, a lucky catch and SFA else. The fact we've got away as well as we have is down to 3 things :
- Luck;
- Population density;
- Distance;
- an over zealous Premier who over-counts cases; and
- Luck.

The reason we lock down as much as we do is because if we didn't our already overwhelmed health system would buckle with more than 5 cases.

I'm hoping to hell those East of the rabbit proof fence get it together and under control before it breaks loose here and hits my 7 year old, because he'll be last to get the *****.

Easy to sit here and throw spears, like the Premier does, but when we lock down here we see the same kind of Lunacy I saw in Vic last year and my relies are seeing in NSW now. We've just been "fortunate" thus far.