Covid Mk ll

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Originally Posted by BradC

Unless it's a properly fitted N95 it's doing sfa for you.

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I would agree there - I have been using the cheap disposable masks with the stiffen top to fit snug around the nose and cheeks - work reasonably well with little of my breath escaping around the sides and my glasses do not fog up so a good sign the mask is actually sealing.

Wanted a washable cloth type and found one that had replaceable filters - hmm these must be good so I buy one and three filters - utter crap - unlike the cheap disposable ones there is nothing to seal around the nose and the filters are too dense to allow air to pass through - the result is that when you breathe out the air just goes up and out the top not through the filter - glasses are completely fogged up.

N95 masks are the way to go but at about $5 for a single use mask the cost is a bit much - so I will stay with the blue single use masks at about 50c-80c each. Clearly not as good as N95, but much better than cloth masks.

Oh and have you noticed how the grubs are now just throwing used masks on the ground instead of the bin or somewhere else safe and sound.

Yes, I picked up a couple while mowing which had just been thrown on the roadside outside our place. Grubs!

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Originally Posted by bob10

Proof the National surveillance program ie the testing of truck drivers every 7 days is working. Two truck drivers in Qld tested positive, but because of the National program, they are not considered a risk to Qld.

Queensland records six new cases of COVID-19, two truck drivers under investigation (msn.com)

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Not considered a risk…..yet

Not many realise that drivers and essential workers crossing the border are having two COVID tests per week to ensure they always comply.

Something our employees are dreading once our approval to cross the border daily is approved.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

There are about 6 million children under 12, I read. They would be most of the 20% not included in the 80%. Anti-vaxer adults would only be a small number.
Unprotected children would be most of the fatalities if we opened up prematurely. So adults who were mostly vaccinated would be deciding to open up despite the risk of thousands of unprotected children, including their own, becoming sick and dying.
Doesn't sound like a good situation to me.

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In 2019 ABS has the population of children(0-14yo) at 18.7% of total population. Using our current population of about 26M, this would put the number of children at 4.862M. Extrapolating that to get the number of children 0-12yo would put the number roughly at 4.16M.

I don't think it is as cut and dry as you are making out.

The deaths that are occurring now are not in the younger age groups.

Hopefully the parents and relatives of said children are of the responsible kind and are themselves vaccinated which would afford the children some level of protection. Also, keep in mind the example of the party in Sydney where all the unvaccinated people caught the virus but the vaccinated did not. If the children are largely surrounded by vaccinated people then they would be afforded some level of protection.

I think the bigger concern for children is how the disease will affect them in the long term.

COVID-19 deaths by age group and sex | Australian Government Department of Health

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Originally Posted by Eevo

deaths by age group and sex

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Hmmm.....death by sex.......Got any pics? [wink11][bigsmile1]

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Originally Posted by Grumbles

Hmmm.....death by sex.......Got any pics? [wink11][bigsmile1]

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Pictures be damned. I'll wait for the Video, Ta very.:Rolling:.

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

I would agree there - I have been using the cheap disposable masks with the stiffen top to fit snug around the nose and cheeks - work reasonably well with little of my breath escaping around the sides and my glasses do not fog up so a good sign the mask is actually sealing.

Wanted a washable cloth type and found one that had replaceable filters - hmm these must be good so I buy one and three filters - utter crap - unlike the cheap disposable ones there is nothing to seal around the nose and the filters are too dense to allow air to pass through - the result is that when you breathe out the air just goes up and out the top not through the filter - glasses are completely fogged up.

N95 masks are the way to go but at about $5 for a single use mask the cost is a bit much - so I will stay with the blue single use masks at about 50c-80c each. Clearly not as good as N95, but much better than cloth masks.

Oh and have you noticed how the grubs are now just throwing used masks on the ground instead of the bin or somewhere else safe and sound.

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If I get to return to the office in the next few weeks its likely that I'll be wearing a mask all day, a bit of googling resulted in a box of these suckers on their way Aussie Pharma Direct - Australian made products I doubt I could put up with either the cheapies or the cloth ones for much more than an hour at a stretch. I'll let you know how they go.

Regards,
Tote

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Originally Posted by Grumbles

Hmmm.....death by sex.......Got any pics? [wink11][bigsmile1]

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Episode 3, series one of Futurama has all the information you need - Death by snu-snu

Regards,
Tote

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Originally Posted by windsock

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A map of the locations of all known close contacts who are supposed to be self-isolating. From Covid-19: Heat map shows spread of close contacts isolating across New Zealand | Stuff.co.nz

I don't think Level 4 lock down is going to be ending early for many of us any time soon. Auckland's lock down was extended to 31 Aug yesterday and the rest of us are under level 4 until at least this Friday when reviews of the numbers of cases will dictate any change in lock down levels. The reason it is this Friday is that it would be effective in showing up actual cases developed pre-lock down and therefore give a picture of the extent of the problem. Numbers are expected to rise until then. So far 99 are in Auckland and eight in Wellington with no other known cases anywhere else and no waste water testing positive any where else either. There were 21 on Sunday and 35 yesterday.

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One of the ironies of controlling Covid is that by being able to live a pretty normal life, when it does get in it spreads widely and quickly.

I was in Sydney a couple of months ago and I and a colleague from Melbourne recoiled from getting into a packed lift with some clients and colleagues, but my Sydney colleagues piled in and started chiacking us for not getting in with them. The thing is that in Melbourne our office lifts are still max three people and that was left in place as a precaution even when we were out of lockdown.