Covid Mk ll

Took Mr 7 year old for his first jab yesterday (and I got my booster). Explaining the concept behind the vaccine was easy enough, but explaining why some people choose not to get it was a bit more "challenging".

When he comes home and says one of his school mates said "My mum says I'm not having the vaccine because it's poison and your parents don't love you because they're making you have it", it can provoke some challenging conversations.

Thankfully I have a relatively intelligent 7 year old who's been exposed to the real world and can understand reason and probability.

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Originally Posted by BradC

"shouldn't". Except for the perfectly healthy people with no underlying conditions that die rapidly from multiple organ failure because COVID is nothing like a "flu". Don't worry though, it won't happen unless it does.

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Local doctor in my town caught Delta. 32. Fit as a fiddle. Races a push bike. Ended up on an iron lung, has scarred lungs and required open heart surgery.

Life long impacts. Now he can only move at a slow walking pace and they say his lungs are permanently scarred. But it's no worse than a cold..... I've got heaps of reports on this. It's actually part of my job to understand it. It is not a cold or a flu. If your doctor is saying that he's at worse misinformed.

To those of you not getting vaccinated - you help spread it more readily than those who are vaccinated. Might not be a problem for you if you have mild side effects. Sure as hell will be for the person you pass it on to who's pregnant, in a wheelchair, is elderly or has a comorbidity (which is 20% of the population btw) or a million other combinations.

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That's hardly surprising. Anecdotally there appears to be a considerable proportion of people who don't understand where children come from, let alone can read a calendar. "Procreation favours the stupid".

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The religious types in the Rogan Josh pod cast might be very upset at many of the statements used. One claim statement was they wanted to ensure more breeding to increase number of a minority sect[bigwhistle]. Not suggesting everyone who falls for qnon type waffle is stupid. They may be in that zone for many reasons.

Ps Everyone know its the stork that bought our babies [biggrin][biggrin][biggrin]



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That's hardly surprising. Anecdotally there appears to be a considerable proportion of people who don't understand where children come from, let alone can read a calendar. "Procreation favours the stupid".

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I do I do, Mr Smarty Pants:arms::arms: From under a Cabbage Leaf..



You can't fool me.:Thump:

Trouty & Saitch's joints must be awash with kids.


BUGGER! Seems Diver is going to take some convincing.[bigrolf]

Bloody know all Medical Profession.:Rolling:

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The religious types in the Rogan Josh pod cast might be very upset at many of the statements used.

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That doesn't make it inaccurate however.

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Is just allowed to walk out of the airport - I thought he had to go into 14 days quarantine or can he just take his own little time to wander around visiting a few places before ending in quarantine - sounds like WA has not learnt the past mistakes of the east where lot of infections arose from lazy routines to get from the airport to the place of quarantine.

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The new Feb 5 rules are that Domestic arrivals do 14 days home quarantine. JL left the airport in to a van to go home for 14 days. No special treatment there.

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The new Feb 5 rules are that Domestic arrivals do 14 days home quarantine. JL left the airport in to a van to go home for 14 days. No special treatment there.

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Media says Hotel Quarantine - left the airport without any sort of escort - mixing with other passengers and people in the airport - shows that despite the local restrictions, have not learnt the hard lessons elsewhere.

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Media says Hotel Quarantine - left the airport without any sort of escort - mixing with other passengers and people in the airport - shows that despite the local restrictions, have not learnt the hard lessons elsewhere.

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Local returning WA residents can quarantine at home JL has done exactly that, Interstate and overseas arrivals do the hotel routine.
WA has Most certainly learnt from the massive cock ups on the Eastern seaboard, Thats why the borders are closed and we havent "Let it Rip" like the other States and that is why the new infections and deaths in WA are a Tiny fraction of those elsewhere.

Its the Eastern seaboard that has failed miserably in Not learning from their mistakes, WA has done just fine thank you.

Talk about throwing stones in glass houses[bigwhistle]

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Originally Posted by gusthedog

Local doctor in my town caught Delta. 32. Fit as a fiddle. Races a push bike. Ended up on an iron lung, has scarred lungs and required open heart surgery.

Life long impacts. Now he can only move at a slow walking pace and they say his lungs are permanently scarred. But it's no worse than a cold..... I've got heaps of reports on this. It's actually part of my job to understand it. It is not a cold or a flu. If your doctor is saying that he's at worse misinformed.

To those of you not getting vaccinated - you help spread it more readily than those who are vaccinated. Might not be a problem for you if you have mild side effects. Sure as hell will be for the person you pass it on to who's pregnant, in a wheelchair, is elderly or has a comorbidity (which is 20% of the population btw) or a million other combinations.

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Just a quick query, seeing as it's your area of ($alary?) expertise.... Why do females - as a group - suffer less serious or severe illness and deaths than males ?
Thinking it may be the lack of T, as I've come across androgen reduction incorporated in treatment. ?
And / or the more nuanced immune system women are blessed with. ?

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Local doctor in my town caught Delta. 32. Fit as a fiddle. Races a push bike. Ended up on an iron lung, has scarred lungs and required open heart surgery.

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I may have mentioned this previously. I have a BIL, who is a radiographer at a large Qld hospital and his descriptions of COVID affected lungs are not for the squeamish!