Covid Mk ll

Noticing a very interesting impact of high vaccine levels. Several people who have Covid have tested negative multiple times over several days. Family/mates all testing positive giving first clue.

What was clear for us is that symptoms are treated as highly COVID positive if known close positives and symptoms despite multiple negative RAT and/or negative PCR.


We had run a book on one person doing a PCR test recently after a few RATs. NO MONEY BET- Would it be Negative or Positive? We had about 50/50 for that. My Nurse was right. She suggested test Negative but will be positive.

A Positive Rat several days after everyone else was positive. Direct family all have it. Not my family happily.

The Butcher just told me he was crook for over a week and tested Negative for the first 6 days so he "Did NOT Have Covid"?? Convinced he had the flu[biggrin] We are still in a Zero flu zone for a while yet so I suspect another possibility more likley [biggrin]

My point it a test may show your the viral load right now. It doesn't show you any thing about tomorrow.

PS the new variant is the old two joined up. Until the next one perhaps? What I do not want to see is the Covflu combination.

Not starting Flu vaccines for a while as almost no flu at all in Australia yet. More than a few think it will do an Arnold S with a "I'll be back" and come back with a vengeance later this year. Delaying vax for it will help provide cover for the later part of the Flu season. Late May for me.

We're still seeing about 30-40% of the workforce being away either due to having covid or being a close contact. Interestingly it seems to be the fervent workplace mask wearers who are getting it, mostly from their family, not in the workplace. The iso rules are having a pretty big effect on productivity and a significant number of people are isolating and catching it from their family at day 5 or 6 and then having another week off. I suspect that productivity would improve if we moved to an "isloate if you have symptoms" strategy rather than the current regime, there's a lot of very bored healthy people locked up with diseased family.

Regards,
Tote

Yes - we’ve had 6 of our 22 staff have 2 weeks off - first week as a close contact then getting it themselves on day 5 or 6 after being locked in a house with said close contact all week.

I joined the club yesterday, woke up at 7am in agony with joint and muscle aches short sharp coughing and sore throat.

Went to bed Saturday night perfectly fine and no indication of anything amiss, positive PCR came back 10pm last night as I had asked if they could pretty pls process quicker so I knew whether to turn up for todays CT scan.

Not happy after being a hermit as much as possible other than food shopping and walk dog.

On the bright side, if you can call it that, being a low income type, my application for the covid emergency relief payment was in by 11pm sunday (no idea about these payments existing but my daughter put me straight) so more money to spend on the disco (not sure if that's a good thing though, bottomless pit)

I had 3 jabs by december and was looking for a 4th this month, at this point my lungs feel normal and I don't feel as distressed physically like I did yesterday as I started pumping the aspirin yesterday and daughter dropped off a heap of ibuprofin which is keeping me on my feet instead of miserable and moping.

I have the taste and smell change and my skin is lightly painfull as I move around and clothes shift, temp is high 37.6 but thermometer battery gave out few hours ago after I last checked.

Even took the ARB roof rack off and replaced with straight bars but working slowly as I felt tired if I moved too quick.

Now I have some idea of what it feels like I am very sympathetic towards the people who cop it in a very debilitating manner and have it drag on as long covid.

Personally I feel it will be all good in a couple days and back to being as fit as I (pathetically [bigsad]) was once my isolation finishes.

I don't think I will be having another jab as I am convinced my body will learn more from this week of fighting the real thing than more vaccination for variants.

Latest Dr Campbell video, discusses a few things including China's latest 'oDd' lockdown philosophy.
UK peaks, China locks down - YouTube

Couple of gems -

Lateral Flow Tests ("RATS" for us ?) are showing up to 20% False NEGATIVEs. That is, one in five "All Good"[/I].... are actually Bbad News

Going t'other way, only 2.5% of LFTs give a FAKE Positive.
Or, one in 40 gets worried over nothing.

Other 'biggie' is the UK govt has issued NEW and Improved, whiter-than-white.... Symptoms Guidelines. Predictably, not that great.

Better revised list from Prof. Spector, showing the rate of reporting which is more useful, is :-

Runny nose - 82% Fatigue 72% Headache 69% Sore throat 69%

Sneezing 68% Persistant cough 54% Hoarseness 47% Chills / shivers 36%

Joint pains 33% Dizziness 30% Brain fog / lost Plot 28% SORE EYES 25%

and SMELL- loss or change, 24% Aches all over...23% Also tinnitus. ??%

Good News is 'Loss of Appetite', Bad News is... only 20-ish %

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We're still seeing about 30-40% of the workforce being away either due to having covid or being a close contact. Interestingly it seems to be the fervent workplace mask wearers who are getting it, mostly from their family, not in the workplace. The iso rules are having a pretty big effect on productivity and a significant number of people are isolating and catching it from their family at day 5 or 6 and then having another week off. I suspect that productivity would improve if we moved to an "isloate if you have symptoms" strategy rather than the current regime, there's a lot of very bored healthy people locked up with diseased family.

Regards,
Tote

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DON't press my 'Muzzling' buttons ![biggrin]

Another thing about the Fanatic Face Wrappers... is they're more often than not, the first in line for (yet ANOTHER) jabbing... And possibly sooner than later.
They are also very grateful Australia has had/got / ordered / paid for... >250 MILLION jabs.
Ten each, every person from babies to Centernarians.


Interesting comment from a former - professional - Asbestos - Remover.

" 'Surgical' Face masks don't. (adjectives) work..." --- Followed by a detailed commentary on those who disagree....

Reckon he's on to something.

Or, try telling Occ Health & Safety that your 'Made NOT in the West' 95 Cents surgical mask is good enough.

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.. for protecting you from me, but they protect me from you. Oddly enough if we both wear them then they protect us from each other. For ****s sake we've been over this a million times. If there was no evidence they helped damp aerosol projection they wouldn't use them in surgery.


For your mate that deals with Asbestos using them for that role they'll do SFA unless he's breathing out Asbestos fibres and his mask is protecting me. I've posted this before, but it's worth posting again.

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DON't press my 'Muzzling' buttons ![biggrin]

Another thing about the Fanatic Face Wrappers... is they're more often than not, the first in line for (yet ANOTHER) jabbing... And possibly sooner than later.
They are also very grateful Australia has had/got / ordered / paid for... >250 MILLION jabs.
Ten each, every person from babies to Centernarians.


Interesting comment from a former - professional - Asbestos - Remover.

" 'Surgical' Face masks don't. (adjectives) work..." --- Followed by a detailed commentary on those who disagree....

Reckon he's on to something.

Or, try telling Occ Health & Safety that your 'Made NOT in the West' 95 Cents surgical mask is good enough.

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Test- put a N95 mask on and walk in to the stinkiest environment possible- You will still smell it :)

Happily viral micron sizes is known a little better than the quagmire we can never totally escape with out SCBA or scuba but noting wearing my scuba when not very wet would be very weird :)

I estimate 1 in a 100 to 1 in 1000 of the vaccines people in the room with me have be infectious. I could prove that but not today :)
A good mask is not perfect. It is much better in crowded spots than a birthday suit promise. At a guess 50,000 odd asymptomatic positives out and about at the moment. NSW and VIC MY suspicion with no evidence at all :)

Seat belts, insurance..... optional right[bighmmm]

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.. for protecting you from me, but they protect me from you. Oddly enough if we both wear them then they protect us from each other. For ****s sake we've been over this a million times. If there was no evidence they helped damp aerosol projection they wouldn't use them in surgery.


For your mate that deals with Asbestos using them for that role they'll do SFA unless he's breathing out Asbestos fibres and his mask is protecting me. I've posted this before, but it's worth posting again.

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So the moral of this story is ..... Don't go around ****ing on your fellow man or you may get ****ed on in turn, plus the fact that being ****ed on/by someone else can turn one's DAKS blue. I think I get it. [bighmmm][bigrolf]



I wish I possessed a stream like Person #1.:BigCry::Rolling:

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I wish I possessed a stream like Person #1.:BigCry::Rolling:

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Be thankful you're still here to dribble in the bowl!