Thread: Covid Mk ll

Great the kid has been found and the other kid is home. Positive news is much needed.

Meanwhile, in other possibly positive news, rumour has it if Victoria continues the way it is, maybe soon poor old Victorians might be able to enjoy a short, sharp ... opening.


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There was some mention of this last week but Daniel Andrews said it explicitly yesterday - our current outbreak is a outbreak of the unvaccinated, which therefore largely means people under the age of 50:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victoria-records-183-new-cases-as-ama-president-warns-more-deaths-could-see-hospitals-overrun-20210905-p58ov4.html

“The age breakdown confirms that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated,” Mr Andrews said on Sunday morning.

“216 of our cases are aged 0-9, 232 are aged 10-19, 348 are aged in their 20s, and 245 are aged in their 30s.”

“Of the new cases today, 91 per cent are under 50.”


Apparently a lot of the spread has been in childcare. So, it's not a case of the community not complying with the restrictions.

In relation to vaccine effectiveness:


"There are 89 people being treated for coronavirus in Victorian hospitals, 24 are in intensive care units and 13 are on ventilators.

“Only one person who is in hospital has been fully vaccinated, again, just making the point that if you are double-dose protected with either of the vaccines that are available then you are almost certain to avoid very serious illness,” Mr Andrews said.

“It’s another reminder and important point to make about appointment to get vaccinated and vaccinated quickly"


One out of 89 means that the unvaccinated are 98.9% of the people who have been hospitalised.

NB, As far as I'm aware they're not treating people at home so those numbers should account for everyone.


So what does this all mean?

1. Well, once vaccination rates increase there will be a drop off in cases, since the vaccines appear to be prophylactic. Against that, there is likely to be a rise in mystery cases because lots of people will have such minor symptoms that they won't get tested.

2. It will mostly be the unvaccinated who get sick and need medical care.

Originally Posted by Arapiles

There was some mention of this last week but Daniel Andrews said it explicitly yesterday - our current outbreak is a outbreak of the unvaccinated, which therefore largely means people under the age of 50:

....

Some further info on the numbers in hospital:



Of the 92 people in hospital as a result of the Delta outbreak, 67 had not received any vaccine dose despite being eligible.
Another 13 were unvaccinated but not eligible because they were under the age of 16. From next Monday, children aged 12 to 15 will be eligible.
Ten people in hospital had had one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. “This current outbreak has targeted the unvaccinated,” Mr Foley said.


So, two-thirds were eligible to get a vaccine but hadn't.

It's a bit worrying that there's 10 people who've had a first dose but still got hospitalised - I'd understood that overseas it was a lower figure.

This headline made me smile this morning: Nadia Bartel ‘forced into hiding’ as ‘snorting’ scandal erupts
Nadia Bartel in hiding after Melbourne Covid lockdown breach video | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

Isn't that what she should have been doing all along anyway regardless of her consumption of white powder?

Regards,
Tote

Originally Posted by Arapiles

So, two-thirds were eligible to get a vaccine but hadn't.

I know here there were a stack of people who were "eligible" but there wasn't the availability at the time. I'd like to give some of them the benefit of the doubt but two thirds is probably pushing it.

Originally Posted by Arapiles

It's a bit worrying that there's 10 people who've had a first dose but still got hospitalised - I'd understood that overseas it was a lower figure.

I believe there's a pretty significant variance with the available vaccines. Regardless of vaccine I recall the 1st dose efficacy being about half, so not entirely unexpected.

Nice to see NZ have plateaued. Long may it continue.

Originally Posted by Arapiles

Some further info on the numbers in hospital:



Of the 92 people in hospital as a result of the Delta outbreak, 67 had not received any vaccine dose despite being eligible.
Another 13 were unvaccinated but not eligible because they were under the age of 16. From next Monday, children aged 12 to 15 will be eligible.
Ten people in hospital had had one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. “This current outbreak has targeted the unvaccinated,” Mr Foley said.


So, two-thirds were eligible to get a vaccine but hadn't.

It's a bit worrying that there's 10 people who've had a first dose but still got hospitalised - I'd understood that overseas it was a lower figure.

"Bloody youngsters", they could be the death of all of us eventually!

Is it any wonder why the rest of the states/teritories are falling behind the NSW vaccination rates when NSW has been getting 45% of all the Pfizer jabs.

Dan Andrews: I didn't sign up to a national plan to vaccinate Sydney (msn.com)

Originally Posted by trout1105

Is it any wonder why the rest of the states/teritories are falling behind the NSW vaccination rates when NSW has been getting 45% of all the Pfizer jabs.

Gold standard of vaccine procurement?