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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    Yes but people in the other States can travel interstate and internationally to visit friends and return home where you guys are still locked in your fortress cave. Might be OK for you personally but not for .
    It’s business that needs the freedom we now have in the eastern states,as well as tourism.

    I doubt the tourism industry in WA is doing well at all.

    The majority of the rest of the economy in WA is probably mining.

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    Hospitalisations and ICU admissions are actually decreasing based as a percentage of overall infections.
    Based on percentages of overall infections yes BUT the ACTUAL numbers of hospital admissions is going up rapidly due to the massive increases in infections so things are actually getting worse NOT better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discomatt69 View Post
    Maybe its just me, maybe someone with more smarts and/or medical background can give an opinion ( are they still allowed?)
    But what if, just maybe, we stopped all the testing, closed the vax clinics, sent all the staff pulled out of the hospital system that are working in said testing and vaxxing consortium's and ended that obsession.
    Then pour all the billions that is being spent on said locations back into the hospital system, massively increased staff because they are no longer doing their new job and are back where they are needed.
    Anyone who gets sick goes to the hospital, then gets tested, then gets the required treatment, anyone who needs or wants their booster shot goes to the same outlets that did flu vax and childhood vax.
    The way I see it testing clinics don't really slow the spread any more and we are all "protected" so what is the benefit of continuing down the same path that clearly does not work
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    It’s business that needs the freedom we now have in the eastern states,as well as tourism.

    I doubt the tourism industry in WA is doing well at all.

    The majority of the rest of the economy in WA is probably mining.
    There is so Much more to the WA economy than just mining and some towns especially in the NW of the State have actually had a tourism Boom due to the border closures and West Australians spending their holidays within the State instead of going overseas/interstate.

    The local buisnesses (Retail and service) havent taken the massive hits due to endless lockdowns and infected workers not being able to go to work like in some of the other States.

    As far as "Freedoms" go West australians can travel anywhere in this vast State, We don't have to wear masks, most of the pubs etc. are open for buisness, We don't have to proove our vaccination status to enter anywhere either.

    IF we want to we can moove to ANY State we choose (Coming back is problematic) as well.

    So as far as "Freedoms" go WA has Much more of that than most of the other States so I don't know what you are banging on about
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    IF we did it your way we would most definately need more staff at the hospitals especially in the Mortuary
    Yes. It would make the situation worse, not better.

    Some people are convinced that they have found a solution that every medical expert in the world has missed.

    They need reminding that for every complex problem there is a solution that is clear and simple and wrong.

    Labelling an idea "common sense" does absolutely nothing to make it more valid.

    As several people have already said, countries that have even leaned slightly in the direction of abandoning the measures being applied in Australia have seen numbers far worse than ours.

    I am convinced that people who think we should stop wearing masks, stop washing our hands, stop keeping our distance, and stop trying to keep track of who is infected must have slept through the high school maths lesson that dealt with exponential growth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    So as far as "Freedoms" go WA has Much more of that than most of the other States so I don't know what you are banging on about
    Well I was able to travel interstate to have Christmas with my family with minimal restriction where if I lived in WA I would not have been able to do that. With a mother in her mid 90s, every minute is precious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    There is so Much more to the WA economy than just mining and some towns especially in the NW of the State have actually had a tourism Boom due to the border closures and West Australians spending their holidays within the State instead of going overseas/interstate.

    The local buisnesses (Retail and service) havent taken the massive hits due to endless lockdowns and infected workers not being able to go to work like in some of the other States.

    As far as "Freedoms" go West australians can travel anywhere in this vast State, We don't have to wear masks, most of the pubs etc. are open for buisness, We don't have to proove our vaccination status to enter anywhere either.

    IF we want to we can moove to ANY State we choose (Coming back is problematic) as well.

    So as far as "Freedoms" go WA has Much more of that than most of the other States so I don't know what you are banging on about
    When it gets to WA and it will, the lowest ICU bed rate per capita in the country with a lack of herd immunity will see McGowan lock the place down for another 12 months. He has had 2 years to get his act together. Now he will blame someone else.....again

    WA has lowest ICU bed count in nation based on population, according to medical journal - ABC News
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chenz View Post
    When it gets to WA and it will, the lowest ICU bed rate per capita in the country with a lack of herd immunity will see McGowan lock the place down for another 12 months. He has had 2 years to get his act together. Now he will blame someone else.....again

    WA has lowest ICU bed count in nation based on population, according to medical journal - ABC News
    NSW has also had 2 years to get its act together and yet it is still a 3 ring circus over there with COV19 infections, hospitilisations and deaths.
    The NSW government has absolutely NOTHING to "Skite" about with its **** poor responses to this pandemic and why is it that many from NSW are always "Bagging" WA about its COV19 responses when WA has fared a thousand times better that the Gold standard State has over the last couple of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    You have seen what is happening in just about every country apart from Australia haven't you? Cheers
    Yes

    But pollies don't know better, and sometimes the health advice given to us by the pollies has been heard the way the pollies want to tell it not the way it was given to them.

    We have gotten through with luck and lockdowns.

    Look how omicron is spreading now, pollies have not the gumption any more for major lockdowns or border closures, and let's face it, there comes a time to move on.

    All the deaths have not convinced die hard anti vaxxers of anything, just like all the ads about not using your mobile phone when driving, not tailgating, not beating the women and children up in your household (and men in my experience) , even having gentle warning ads about tradies drug driving (are we so blase/accepting about everything nowadays ) etc etc

    The world moves on and will move on.

    It doesn't matter in the scheme of things how many millions die over this (unless I am one of them, then it matters but only to me), how many died in past wars and pestilence and how many die in the future wars and pestilence, the world moves on repeating ad nauseum. We don't learn. We talk, do what needs to get us through the moment, but don't learn to not repeat our mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    NSW has also had 2 years to get its act together and yet it is still a 3 ring circus over there with COV19 infections, hospitilisations and deaths.
    The NSW government has absolutely NOTHING to "Skite" about with its **** poor responses to this pandemic and why is it that many from NSW are always "Bagging" WA about its COV19 responses when WA has fared a thousand times better that the Gold standard State has over the last couple of years.
    Hmmm, NSW has about 4 times the population and is about 1/4 the size, i think we've done fairly well. And atleast we are treating our fellow Australians well, unlike how our eastern dwellers who do fifo in WA are treated, basically like criminals.

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