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    less servicing perhaps, but most of the failures I hear of from my family, and for that matter in my own vehicles, are electrical, trim, bodywork, suspension etc, all of which are shared with EVs.
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    I can see the charm of having a 4wd with an electric motor on every corner that can be exactly programmed to make x revolutions per minute depending on steering wheel angle. ie, the absolute perfect traction control / locker

    Other than that I have no (zero) interest in (in particular battery powered) electric vehicles. Although I believe them to possibly be almost maintenance free for the first 5-10 years of their life, beyond that they become a throw away consumer item so I think it is both a blessing and a curse...

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    The EU is working on a soon to be introduced law that for safety reasons will only allow original manufacturers parts to be used. That will no doubt have the ‘unintended’ result of forcing a lot of vehicles off the road saving on your maintenance costs

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    Quote Originally Posted by prelude View Post
    I can see the charm of having a 4wd with an electric motor on every corner that can be exactly programmed to make x revolutions per minute depending on steering wheel angle. ie, the absolute perfect traction control / locker

    Other than that I have no (zero) interest in (in particular battery powered) electric vehicles. Although I believe them to possibly be almost maintenance free for the first 5-10 years of their life, beyond that they become a throw away consumer item so I think it is both a blessing and a curse...

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    Which will also make it able to do a "tank turn". Tank Turn | Electric Adventure Vehicles | Rivian - YouTube
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3toes View Post
    The EU is working on a soon to be introduced law that for safety reasons will only allow original manufacturers parts to be used. That will no doubt have the ‘unintended’ result of forcing a lot of vehicles off the road saving on your maintenance costs
    That will tick off the right to repair crowd something chronic. How would it be enforced? Order parts from OS, fit them and keep driving.
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    Manufacturers are very concerned about your safety which is being compromised by non genuine parts. You can repair just have to use OEM parts.

    Under existing rules in theory manufacturers to store parts for the first 7 years of a cars life. After that you are on your own. At the moment slack is picked up by non OEM parts. You can guess where this will go

    A garage franchised or independent will legally have to fit OEM parts. If they do not and is found or the car is in an accident then liability will fall on garage or person who fitted the part

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3toes View Post
    Manufacturers are very concerned about your safety which is being compromised by non genuine parts. You can repair just have to use OEM parts.

    Under existing rules in theory manufacturers to store parts for the first 7 years of a cars life. After that you are on your own. At the moment slack is picked up by non OEM parts. You can guess where this will go

    A garage franchised or independent will legally have to fit OEM parts. If they do not and is found or the car is in an accident then liability will fall on garage or person who fitted the part
    But the accident would have to be caused the part fitted for it to come back on them - and almost no accidents are caused by component failure. I’d do it without issue. It’s a scare campaign funded by the car industry. I bet the repair industry will be fighting this and it isn’t hard to prove non standard parts aren’t unsafe just by looking at the data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3toes View Post
    Manufacturers are very concerned about your safety which is being compromised by non genuine parts. You can repair just have to use OEM parts.

    Under existing rules in theory manufacturers to store parts for the first 7 years of a cars life. After that you are on your own. At the moment slack is picked up by non OEM parts. You can guess where this will go

    A garage franchised or independent will legally have to fit OEM parts. If they do not and is found or the car is in an accident then liability will fall on garage or person who fitted the part
    I call bulldust on manufacturer's care, if they were really worried they'd be liable for any damage/deaths caused by their vehicles especially self driving ones.
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    As noted above, very few accidents are contributed to by vehicle defects, and of these, the number that would be because of faulty non-original parts would be vanishingly small, although I have no doubt it would be possible to dredge up a few if you tried hard enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    As noted above, very few accidents are contributed to by vehicle defects, and of these, the number that would be because of faulty non-original parts would be vanishingly small, although I have no doubt it would be possible to dredge up a few if you tried hard enough.
    Blackhawk(after market) upper control arms,or more precisely,the ball joints that were fitted to them, have failed recently and caused quite a few accidents and near misses.
    There is now a recall out for the units with certain serial numbers.

    But yes,not many vehicle components fail causing accidents,except probably tyres.

    That is if tyres can be called vehicle components.

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