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    Cold or hot?? It cost money- COP26

    Cold or hot?? It cost money

    "US household winter heating costs to see double-digit growth: EIA. Energy prices climbed 1.3% in September and are now up 24.8% over the past year" Foxy news and EIA data


    If Australia takes we have a big new rail line for coal we can ship to you I wonder what the reaction will be at COP26: What is the Glasgow climate"
    Be interesting to watch. My silly thought is carbon free Uranium which is hated by many

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    Cold or hot?? It cost money

    "US household winter heating costs to see double-digit growth: EIA. Energy prices climbed 1.3% in September and are now up 24.8% over the past year" Foxy news and EIA data


    If Australia takes we have a big new rail line for coal we can ship to you I wonder what the reaction will be at COP26: What is the Glasgow climate"
    Be interesting to watch. My silly thought is carbon free Uranium which is hated by many
    or green hydrogen
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBD4 View Post
    or green hydrogen
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Twiggy's onto it.
    Yep and raise and call by NSW gov't as well which is great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    Not sure if anyone else remembers but water tanks on suburban properties used to be banned - I was only a kid so can't remember why but both Dad and a Neighbour a few doors down had one and had them screened pretty well to avoid prying eyes - a friend of Dad's was forced to remove his back then when found out. Would love to know the reason behind this - I was too young to remember why, but I do recall them both telling us not to go telling everyone because they weren't supposed to be there.

    We moved after that to a rural property where the only water was tank water and that's what we grew up with - I still have short showers to this day as I'm sure I'll still get Dad hammering on the bathroom door telling me I've been too long - even from beyond the grave.

    This happened in NSW as well in the '80's. One excuse was tanks were an eyesore and breeders of mosquitoes etc.

    Then the great turnaround happened and the state government started subsidising the purchase and installation of water tanks. Go figure.

    I grew up with tank water, am now connected to town water on my rural block and I don't waste water. And that is the main crux, people use too much water. Bugger building more dams and destroying more river systems. Utilise what we already have more wisely.
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    The US water is odd- flooding East coast and 10 year drought west cost

    Bit crook plus when animals are left high and dry

    "MOENKOPI, Ariz. — On the bone-dry plateau where the Hopi people have lived for well over a thousand years, Robinson Honani pulled his truck to the side of a dirt road and pointed to a carcass.“This is where the cows come to die,” Mr. Honani, manager of the Hopi Office of Range Management, said one morning in September as he spotted the remains nearby of another bovine decaying under the sun. It was at least the 10th dead cow Hopi range officials had found in recent weeks.
    Alarmed by the two-decade drought that has dried up springs, withered crops and killed cattle, the Hopi Tribal Council ordered ranchers in August to slash their herds in a bid to preserve water supplies and avoid the cruelty of an even larger death toll. Link


    It is like a slow train wreak watching a drought. Just a bit more news as it is a food bowl across several states and two countries "

    New estimates show Colorado River levels falling faster than expected" The Bureau of Reclamation report released Thursday shows an 88% chance that Lake Powell could fall below 3,525 feet by next August, a level that would endanger hydropower production, with chances Lake Mead will hit critical levels in the next few years"

    Not this week thankfully ?

    Watching a East Coast of OZ drenching this weekend happily. Given our track record I hope that doesn't lead to a bad fire season

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    no end in sight? La Niña and if its yellow it does mellow?

    "The wet winter the American south-west has hoped for as it battles extreme drought and heat is increasingly unlikely to materialize as scientists now predict that a phenomenon known as La Niña will develop for the second year in a row.The weather system could intensify the worst effects of the drought that much of the region already finds itself in, including higher wildfire risks and water shortages through 2022."


    Many of us who have had drought dry up our dams and tanks know the saying. "If its yellow let it Mellow. If its brown flush it down"

    That needs water to flush it of course "‘Stinky city’: Los Angeles reels from reek of ‘sewer gas’" It is "hydrogen sulfide" of course. Year 10 science class flash back anyone?

    What just might be a real kick in the guts in when after 20 odd years it does start to rain another issue may be tricky plus "For the past three years, the nitrate-removal system hasn’t run at all. “This was built for the old normal,” Corrigan said. Thanks to the drought, there’s been little runoff and hence few nitrates in the water. The problem is that farmers don’t stop applying fertilizer or running large breeding operations because of drought. So the nitrates build up. When they’re eventually washed into rivers and reservoirs, they could overwhelm the system and leave the city unable to meet demand.“The worst-case scenario for us is the drought ends with a wet spring and a huge flush of nitrates.”" Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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    Odd?
    New Delhi to close schools, construction sites due to heavy air pollution link




    v We love coal?
    "The change India proposed replaced the phrase "phase out" with "phase down".

    His voice breaking with emotion after hearing from nations which expressed their anger over the changes to the text, he said: "May I just say to all delegates, I apologise for the way this process has unfolded and I am deeply sorry." Link


    Logical or rubbish is science or self interest or self destruction?

    A bit similar to the water issue? In August 2021, the Colorado River captured the attention of the nation. In a first-of-its-kind decision, the federal government declared a water shortage on the river, which provides 90% of Southern Nevada’s water supply. Mandatory water delivery cuts, known as “Tier 1” reductions, followed for the states of Nevada and Arizona, as well as for the country of Mexico. Paired with expectations of a drier climate, these cuts have catalyzed a conversation about how the region’s water policies – and assumptions about future water availability – must be adapted Link


    Seems odd posting about water shortages (US) when we are getting one of the best wet starts for decades? A 100+ year old pear tree which as had one one or two 'shriveled' pears on it for the last 20+ years is over loaded with fruit this year


    Its gun draw sadly now Farmers V Fish-

    Speaking publicly about racial justice was not without risk in Klamath Falls. A year earlier, at the park where Gentry now sat, a small Black Lives Matter demonstration was met with hundreds of counter-protesters armed with rifles, shotguns and pistols. Now, Gentry planned to argue that the Klamath Basin’s festering racial injustices were also at the root of the region’s explosive issue: water.
    For decades, water has divided farmers and Indigenous people throughout the 15,000 square-mile (38,850 square km) Klamath Basin, which comprises parts of Southern Oregon and Northern California. Tensions rose in May when the federal government shut off access to the water that generations of local farmers had relied on to irrigate their crops. Climate change had brought on extreme drought and the hottest summer in the state’s history. Under those conditions, extracting water for agriculture from Upper Klamath Lake could further threaten endangered species of fish that are sacred to the Klamath Tribes, federal officials said.

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    In Port Fairy not just for a Chemo run. Noted several hundred metres of dunes now having rock wall to stop them washing away. Ditto at Portland and same at Cape Bridgewater. Millions $$$$$ plus wasted I see as no way that stops water with clear evidence at spots where storm surges had already moved 100s of tonnes of the rocks by washing the sand way- who would have thought that might happen?

    Back in the Nevada winter wild fires burnt hundreds or thousands of home just before snow storms in Winter Oddly Horse seem as much a issue

    The plans to help seem to overlook the issues in Western Districts of Vic and the US I felt. Perhaps I am a dooms dayer? In the US leaders are deciding what to do with a lot less water.

    I wonder if they are considering a dead duck? Let it snow is a better hope

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