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    Company Brother & I owned , we paid for any of the long time employees to get there F/L Tickets if they wanted to .

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    Just continuing the forklift thing, the basic principle for good training is you can't question someone about a topic unless you have previously ensured they have been taught the correct information about that topic.
    You're not trying to trick people or get them to come up with original thinking. All you are doing is confirming if they know the correct answer or can competently perform the required task.
    A good training system would have a handbook with paragraphs covering all the essential topics. Each paragraph would state the correct answer.
    The questions would be based on the paragraphs and might even direct the candidate to read the relevant paragraph.
    The candidate's challenge is to identify the correct answer in the paragraph and then tick the correct answer in the question.
    I can remember times when I was reviewing proposed tests against course content and I couldn't find the correct answer in the course material, so I would reject the question and ask the author, 'How would someone know the answer to this question?' Usually the tester was assuming the person knew the answer, but had not checked if it was in the course.
    In theory, someone who has never driven a forklift, but has good study methods, should be able to figure out the correct answers to a quiz test just by reading the course material.
    However, being inexperienced, they would come unstuck in the practical test when asked to demonstrate they were competent to move loads.
    That's when the trainer-assessor stands well back in a safe position!
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    Much less complicated safety procedures for back hoe/excavator assessments than forklifts, as any evidence of accidents can be buried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RANDLOVER View Post
    Much less complicated safety procedures for back hoe/excavator assessments than forklifts, as any evidence of accidents can be buried.
    Even worse…

    Back Hoe and Excavator are two different competencies 5 Hours To Tighten A Nut

    Same with Telehandlers - retracted, it’s a forklift.
    Extended it becomes a Crane.

    The number of bloody tickets I hold is insane.
    3 tickets just for FELs… and I did the first one on a WA900. Then they made me do the smaller ones!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Even worse…

    Back Hoe and Excavator are two different competencies 5 Hours To Tighten A Nut

    Same with Telehandlers - retracted, it’s a forklift.
    Extended it becomes a Crane.

    The number of bloody tickets I hold is insane.
    3 tickets just for FELs… and I did the first one on a WA900. Then they made me do the smaller ones!
    An excavator can require a crane ticket too, when fitted with an electromagnet, or hook and chain for laying pipes etc..
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    Seriously guys just how hard is it to carry a couple of shifters,a pair of plyers and a couple of screwdrivers in your workbag when you front up for work??

    Don't forget bag of assorted length Cable Ties & a roll or two of PVC Duct Tape. Black preferably as it stands up to UV much better.

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    Tombie, and Ian, my first quick thought was ,“ Shirley you jest”.

    Then I remembered the Fire Service of 20 years back and the flippin competency tickets I theoretically needed, ....ye gods and little fishes.....’ an excavator with sling a crane!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    Don't forget bag of assorted length Cable Ties & a roll or two of PVC Duct Tape. Black preferably as it stands up to UV much better.
    As an expert in 'crisis maintenance' I can advise that cloth tape (like gaffer) is faaaaar more useful than duct tape.

    The Aldi one can be torn along its length and has superior glue, and the Bear N one tears across the roll.

    I always have a roll of duct tape on board, but haven't used any for yonks.

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    Back in the '90s I was towing a low loader, with the bulk of my work moving earth moving gear. There was uproar when it was suggested that drivers doing this type of work should hold tickets for every piece of equipment they loaded or unloaded. The cost of all those tickets was prohibitive for a one man band, such as mine. The idea was quietly dropped.
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    I suppose behind all this competent operator ticket requirement, are some very good reasons,...and a few other reasons.

    The good reason: be kind to your self, your environment , your machine.

    Other reasons: jealousy ,unions, insurance ,litigation ,elf and safety, money ,making some one feel important

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