Consequences of buying an EV

That’s only a car imagine the same for those people who have similar tech for their houses

One clear effect of buying an EV. Melb- Port fairy return mums Chemo run cost in Disco is $120 + service costs. Ev is $16 ( I found a high speed CCS charge in Ballarat and racv Torquay that charge fast for a few $[biggrin] 10,000 km in EV is yet to cost a service cent[bigwhistle]


Oil price news is interesting. the dump from stragic reserves early this week was a hours worth of fuel and the double counting of it is a bit of a joke[tonguewink]

This is an opinion bit but seemed more than interesting as it doesn't seem to be the oil price that is kicking the fuel prices up and up.


A bad bit about my quirky little cheap ev is my son keeps nicking it as he doesn't want to pay for petrol and service on his car :bat::bat::bat: Clearly he has lost the plot as he was RANGE anxiety anti EV type in love with his oil burner until he moved out and started paying[biggrin][biggrin][biggrin]

10400km in the quirky ev and not one service. Due in another 10,000 or so.

Only a few hundred Km traveled in my Disco which the helpful crew at Ritter just serviced and fixed a few bits on. The difference is stark.

I guess 7k in fuel and servicing costs avoided is still in my pocket covering a little of the about 10k the battery cost over the ICE version. A very rough estimate of course.

A "P"erfect driver in a hot Audi with a very loud v 8 did get annoyed with my EV yesterday. I only went to the speed limit promise. My left lane habit and his right lane saw him slowed by cars in front. Slowed behind me saw him swing back behind me then flooring it via the bus lane through a set of traffic lights got a photo taken of him speeding and me smiling [biggrin] I love red light cameras[bigrolf]

$7K in fuel and servicing over 10,000KM? If a service was say $1,000 every 10,000KM (No idea what a Disco cost to service but my L322 cost $200 in oil and filters so adding $800 here for the dealers apprentices to change it) and using current fuel prices that’s around 33 litres per hundred KM. Even my 101 isn’t that bad.

If you said say 15 litre per 100KM (which is what my 5 tonne Sprinter does) that’s $2,700 in fuel @ $1.80 per litre so unless a service costs more than $4K a pop I’d respectfully suggest either the math is wrong or there’s something really wrong with the disco.

And fuel has been much cheaper than my calcs until recently.

And if you’re working out savings you’d need to factor in all cost associated with the EV like changing at charging stations, rego, etc as I’m assuming your math is working on EV versus driving the Disco as a daily and not having a second car.

Not trying to take away the enjoyment and everything else you get from it - I note there’s a new super charging station just opened in Warnambool and another in Horsham next week that you might be able to make use of on your trips, and a pile of others being installed as we speak so making those longer trips is becoming easier. [emoji106]

Here’s us running the charging station with a less clean power source for commissioning last week. [emoji56][emoji16]

These chargers will pull over 600 amps from the mains when all in use at once - the 250KVA gen shown could only run one charger at a time going full tilt during testing to give you an idea of how much infrastructure needs to be put in and this is a small setup. It needs a new 22KV kiosk and LV switchboard installed on site to power it - just shy of a million dollars for these 3 chargers fully installed - no idea how they are supposed to make anyone any money personally.

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What happens if you only want $30 worth?[smilebigeye]

Can I get a jerrycell for my EV Ride-on?

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$7K in fuel and servicing over 10,000KM? If a service was say $1,000 every 10,000KM (No idea what a Disco cost to service but my L322 cost $200 in oil and filters so adding $800 here for the dealers apprentices to change it) and using current fuel prices that’s around 33 litres per hundred KM. Even my 101 isn’t that bad.

If you said say 15 litre per 100KM (which is what my 5 tonne Sprinter does) that’s $2,700 in fuel @ $1.80 per litre so unless a service costs more than $4K a pop I’d respectfully suggest either the math is wrong or there’s something really wrong with the disco.

And fuel has been much cheaper than my calcs until recently.

And if you’re working out savings you’d need to factor in all cost associated with the EV like changing at charging stations, rego, etc as I’m assuming your math is working on EV versus driving the Disco as a daily and not having a second car.

Not trying to take away the enjoyment and everything else you get from it - I note there’s a new super charging station just opened in Warnambool and another in Horsham next week that you might be able to make use of on your trips, and a pile of others being installed as we speak so making those longer trips is becoming easier. [emoji106]

Here’s us running the charging station with a less clean power source for commissioning last week. [emoji56][emoji16]

These chargers will pull over 600 amps from the mains when all in use at once - the 250KVA gen shown could only run one charger at a time going full tilt during testing to give you an idea of how much infrastructure needs to be put in and this is a small setup. It needs a new 22KV kiosk and LV switchboard installed on site to power it - just shy of a million dollars for these 3 chargers fully installed - no idea how they are supposed to make anyone any money personally.

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I should have added the 300,000 km++ on my Disco(s) did and does add a fair wack to required maintenance costs[thumbsupbig] that does help my tight wad habit on purchase price of course.

Ying and yang. I did not factor in the new engine my current Disco cost me last year promise[bigwhistle]

Supers charges in Colac and many places are locked to that American chap from South Africans cars [thumbsupbig]. Note that might change soon

My wife has not paid once after the freebie access to them when she brought hers. I do not know how much he charges for what is about $16 in Ballarat or Torquay. Either make it a 30 minute stop to keep the lights on for me and it does cost a lot less than my Disco. Note Boat or camping trailer is NOT EV friendly at all yet [biggrin]

Here is a Aussie news on it

https://cfpa-e.eu/container-puts-out...electric-cars/

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For those worried about EV vs ICE cars.....I'm thinking of replacing my EV with a petrol car. Can I refuel it at home? (thedriven.io)

1. I have heard that petrol cars can not refuel at home while you sleep? How often do you have to refill elsewhere? Is this several times a year? Will there be a solution for refueling at home?

2. Which parts will I need service on and how often? The car salesman mentioned a box with gears in it. What is this and will I receive a warning with an indicator when I need to change gear?
3. Can I accelerate and brake with one pedal as I do today with my electric car?
4. Do I get fuel back when I slow down or drive downhill? I assume so, but need to ask to be sure.
5. The car I test drove seemed to have a delay from the time I pressed the accelerator pedal until it began to accelerate. Is that normal in petrol cars?
6. We currently pay about 1.2p per mile to drive our electric car. I have heard that petrol can cost up to 10 times as much so I reckon we will lose some money in the beginning. We drive about 20,000 miles a year. Let’s hope more people will start using petrol so prices go down.
7. Is it true that petrol is flammable? Should I empty the tank and store the petrol somewhere else while the car is in the garage?
8. Is there an automatic system to prevent gasoline from catching fire or exploding in an accident. What does this cost?
9. I understand that the main ingredient in petrol is oil. Is it true that the extraction and refining of oil causes environmental problems as well as conflicts and major wars that over the last 100 years have cost millions of lives? Is there a solution to these problems?

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The Poer of Steam...Doble Steam Car

And more here... Doble Engine Blueprints/AutoCAD

And now the movies.... 1925 Doble E-20 Steam Car - Jay Leno's Garage - YouTube

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The Poer of Steam...Doble Steam Car

And more here... Doble Engine Blueprints/AutoCAD

And now the movies.... 1925 Doble E-20 Steam Car - Jay Leno's Garage - YouTube

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People don't quite realise the power of steam, but 1 litre of water when boiled is 1700 litres of steam!

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$7K in fuel and servicing over 10,000KM? If a service was say $1,000 every 10,000KM (No idea what a Disco cost to service but my L322 cost $200 in oil and filters so adding $800 here for the dealers apprentices to change it) ......................

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There was a guy on the D3/4 forum recently who wasn't 'hands on' and he reckoned maintenance over longer ownership was costing him $5k p/a.

(that doesn't include things like snapped cranks and inlet manifolds) but does include belts, batteries, alternators, etc.

I don't own one but reading that forum is a bit of an eye opener as far as costs go, and to be fair the crew on it enjoy their vehicles regardless.

DL