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To be completely honest the most troublesome 4WD that I have Ever owned has to be my D2a without a shadow of a doubt.[bigsad]
Yes EVERY brand has its problems and WILL fail occasionally BUT in my own experiance the frequency of something going wrong with my D2a is FAR more often than ANY of the other brands of 4WD's that I have owned over the last few decades.
For Many going over to the "Dark Side" usually involves buying a Landrover[bigwhistle]
Lucas electrics... [bighmmm]Quote:
Originally Posted by trout1105
I really do like the "unstoppable, unbreakable" bull that's shouted about by all the fans of anything except a Landie. I well remember being in Broome 20 odd years ago with our D1 300Tdi and camper and checking under the bonnet and a bloke walked past and cracked "You're brave taking that thing out of the metro area ain't yer mate?".
In my haughtiest tone I responded (with a smile of course) "May I remind you that I'm not the one who's had the bonnet of his unstoppable up for 2 days waiting for someone to tell him what's wrong with it".
He didn't speak to me again while we were there even when I gave a cheery "Good morning" to him and his dear wife. :)
But I must say our Prado 120 series in between 5 Landies was a good vehicle and gave us no problems in around 4 - 5 years of ownership. I may go that way again next year if I get worn down reading about broken cranks, EPBs, 7K costs of belt changes etc etc. and get any more trouble like recently when the aircon comp and tensioner had to be replaced after just 107K. Shocking short life and disgraceful but cost of 3.5K paid by Eric the extended warranty company.
AlanH.
In all honesty I have found every land Rover we have owned.. To be what Toyota claim their cars are - unbreakable.
And I'm serious... I have basically never done anything that could later be seen as the event that caused a breakdown(ok maybe once).
I've always found that any breakdown on a land Rover was entirely out of the control of the operator, it is the sole responsibility of the vehicle itself to organise, set the timing of, and then initiate all breakdowns.
They are in my opinion "unbreakable" but they do fail very easily all by themselves.
Cheers
James
Sounds like every 2nd Puma[emoji848]Quote:
Originally Posted by AK83
Sounds similar to 'best 4x4xfar', we all know thats a little far fetched, if it wasn't, this forum wouldn't exist[emoji1]Quote:
Originally Posted by AK83
Actually,the Puma was called the most unreliable vehicle they had ever surveyed, by some vehicle survey mob in the UK.(google is your friend)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vern
Every owner they spoke to had one that had been in for repairs under warranty 3 or more times[bighmmm]
And every single one will break the intermediate shaft,if it isnt replaced with something like the ashcroft set up,in under 100 000Km.
Then there is clutches,master cylinders,diffs,and on it goes.
Such a shame as it was the end of an icon,and could have been the best of them all.
After 70yrs,one would have thought it would have been well sorted.
No it isn't....[bigwhistle]Quote:
Originally Posted by scarry
I'd vote the Puma as the worst Defender. Took me far longer to sell my 2010 than any other vehicle including 3 other Landies before it. Engine was good for power although a noisy thing, but the fit and finish and reliability of other stuff was crap.
Probably the same could be said for the D4s engine designed and built by Ford with bits that can't be changed without taking the body off! I love the cars driveability but hate the thought of so many things which have gone wrong for others in the past with not too many kays on the clock.
That's apart from the other crap like the pop up gear selector, the EPB etc.
But what to buy to replace it with? Pajero no longer made? Prado? Ford of some kind? Other popular ute thing?..... :(
AlanH.
Our 2008 Puma is still on it's origional intermediate shaft at 195857kms.Quote:
Originally Posted by scarry