Thread: Owner report on long BEV trip

Have only driven the car on a test track however wonder what they were comparing it to in regard to handling and driveability as this is not an area would rate it even against other BEV cars

I find it a trifle ironic that going "green" with your BEV entails making extra trips to fuel up, thereby using more fuel than you would if you could just go on your scheduled journey.
Years ago the mantra was-don't make unnecessary trips and don't carry unnecessary weight in your car. Well going out of your way to fill up and cart batteries around seems to go well against the grain of that mantra. Do the "green" brigade not see the irony in this?

Originally Posted by spudfan

I find it a trifle ironic that going "green" with your BEV entails making extra trips to fuel up, thereby using more fuel than you would if you could just go on your scheduled journey.
Years ago the mantra was-don't make unnecessary trips and don't carry unnecessary weight in your car. Well going out of your way to fill up and cart batteries around seems to go well against the grain of that mantra. Do the "green" brigade not see the irony in this?

Yes and no. The cost is mostly time and charge places limitations. It is getting easier daily here in Victoria. Melb, port fairy return Chemo run Tuesday 569km ish return will take two stops at most even in my cheapy MG.

Noting the 2022 version has an option almost double my range making the whole trip possible IF i swap my battery

The COLD is a issue as is HOT as the range WLTP is a measure taken with NO air-conditioning on and average driving condition taken some where some place I never drive.
Just turning on and off my AC changes the range estimate by 30km. Clearly rubbish as if its really hot or really cold it would use more power than just ticking away.

It is a very "immature market" here in Australia. A little surprised to see it is in Ireland, Wales and England. Not really surprised to see some of the issues. CSS charging is probably the new standard yet older types also want a plug

Several of the same issues occurred with Petrol 100 years ago. The more things change the more they stay the same

FYI The Ford Model T has an extensive history in the automotive market lasting for nearly 20 years. It is often called the ’Tin Lizzie’ and the ’Flivver’ and is credited with ’putting America on wheels"

As recorded the mileage was somewhere between 25 – 30 mpg (7.8-9.4 L / 100 KM)
Ford Model T could be a considered a high-risk automobile. The fuel tank was mounted just beneath the driver’s seat. A thin tin frame separated 10 gallons of gasoline and the driver

One of my Grandies drove a Model t from Perth to Melbourne. Fuel was dropped at points by camels to do it Got to love people having a crack with new fangled 1908 technology before infrastructure like roads and Fuel stations existed in most places




More early adopters info from 100 plus ago

Crazy buggers not loving horses any more! Here's Skippy in a Model T !

Here is another article. The title speaks for irself
Poor range and high prices stopped me buying an electric car
Poor range and high prices stopped me buying an electric car

Originally Posted by spudfan

Here is another article. The title speaks for irself
Poor range and high prices stopped me buying an electric car
Poor range and high prices stopped me buying an electric car

Range is a huge issue for Country drives here. Mine was brought for city bits and I was aware its not a logical way to Drive VIC to WA

Noting prices are reducing rapidly of course. Early adopters are nuts or over enthusiastic? The changes here or coming make it fun to watch now. A very nice Stihl whipper snipper I paid $600ish for two years ago is now $199 I know that as I am trying to sell the noisy thing to fund a electric one to go with my lawnmower batteries Used it yesterday - no fumes an soooo much quieter than the 4 stroke which is also for sale. The 2 stroke blower is off as well. The neighbors Sunday sleep in are much easier. Happily no range issues for the lawn mower. Electric blower vac is just a little weaker than the two stroke. I added a narrower nozzle and fixed that easily.
I can listen to music or news rather than ear muffs now My previously very ANTI ev son is still trying to pinch my car- Not my Disco His concern was range as well. I could borrow my wife's much longer range EV and save an hour tomorrow. Note it was 30k more than my cheapy

My point about the Stihl is a little like stranded assets. My son wished he had not grabbed the ICE now and wants to sell it.

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

My point about the Stihl is a little like stranded assets. My son wished he had not grabbed the ICE now and wants to sell it.

Agreed, I don't think that the reality of stranded assets has percolated its way into the popular consciousness yet, but it's been an issue in project financing for at least the last 10 years.

And stranded assets are one of the two key reasons that no foreign or local bank would touch the Adani mine.

Will not early EVs with limited range also become stranded assets?

Nissan Leafs are worth very little, and not as much as their battery.

BTW I note that only 850 people in NSW have ordered EVs even with the NSW Government subsidy of $3000 on the first 25000 sold and stamp duty exemption.

So as EVs get better range (if the mainstream ones do) then will not the older ones become devalued?
Also there is nothing worth less in the States than a Tesla with a dud battery.
Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Also there is nothing worth less in the States than a Tesla with a dud battery.

Not much different than a D4 with a snapped crankshaft then.