Thread: Made in U.K vs made in China

Originally Posted by workingonit

Curious. Understand grinding top coat back pre-welding. Is powder coat more tolerant of heat creep and spatter than regular paint? I'm assuming powder coat as in baked on finish.

I wouldn't of got it powder coated, only sand blasted to remove the mill scale, I will do it by hand, will just take me longer.

Originally Posted by W&KO

Agree….. They manufacture to the customer price and spec

And the customer needs to provide their own QA, at point of manufacturer, to ensure quality/specification as per agreement, is met.
Payment has to be made before dispatch and no claims are recognised post payment.
Quality/specifications will be reduced if the factory can get away with such.

Originally Posted by workingonit

In regard to tanks, I believe Stalin preferred quantity over quality (also a bigger cannon and lots of expendable men) when facing off against the German Tiger. Although ours is the tech era is there any real difference between then and now?



They knew you were going to weld it and saved you a lot of time?

The lifespan of a battle tank during a conflict is Very short these days , Have a look at what the yanks did to Hussains armour

Originally Posted by V8Ian

And the customer needs to provide their own QA, at point of manufacturer, to ensure quality/specification as per agreement, is met.
Payment has to be made before dispatch and no claims are recognised post payment.
Quality/specifications will be reduced if the factory can get away with such.

i know a guy who got a commercial cray boat built in China, to commercial survey specs.

This involved getting a surveyor to sign off at many stages of construction and it was impossible to get one there every time one stage finished and another commenced.

Boat was finished, money (had to be) paid and this guy and a mate brought it back to Oz, which was a whole other adventure. No insurance and plenty of issues.

To get it in survey here involved cutting holes all over the place, etc.

He laughs about the stupidity of it now.

His latest boat was self built with some help from a guy who could also weld aly. Have done research work on it over the last couple of years and it's brilliant in all conditions.

Taking a slightly different approach - given that China is doing it's best to destroy Australia and the western world, and their behaviour over importing Australian goods, shouldn't we return the compliment and if it's got 'Made in China' on it, buy it manufactured somewhere else?

Originally Posted by Vin Rouge

Taking a slightly different approach - given that China is doing it's best to destroy Australia and the western world, and their behaviour over importing Australian goods, shouldn't we return the compliment and if it's got 'Made in China' on it, buy it manufactured somewhere else?

Absolutely, I do this when shopping for groceries and ordering parts.
It's not "china" per say but the CCP. As I've stated many times, the average working class joe china is no different to you or me. Except their freedom and rights are lower, even by Australian standards.

Not that I want to go down that path in this thread, it might be considered political (unlike the winter Olympics right?)

Originally Posted by V8Ian

And the customer needs to provide their own QA, at point of manufacturer, to ensure quality/specification as per agreement, is met.
Payment has to be made before dispatch and no claims are recognised post payment.
Quality/specifications will be reduced if the factory can get away with such.

Let’s not paint all factories with the same brush with these generalizations.…..if you are dealing direct with factory and are having these issues than I guess it’s all about the detail in the contract you have in place.

We don’t have anybody based in China doing QA…..Rolls Royce and GE certainly didn’t have anybody on-site when I was there.

Generally a % is paid prior to despatch however there is generally a % withheld until we take delivery. This is standard no matter which country you purchase from including manufactures in Aus.

We’ve had no issues with warranty, not that we have had any as they quality is spot on. Had one minor issue and that was dealt with straight away locally in Aus. We have full confidence they will stand buy their product.

no issues with the factory we use trying to reduce quality…..again it’s the relationship that is built and contact that is in place.

After my trip to China I returned with a totally different view on how it works over their……

One thing that blew me away was there customer service….. I identified an improvement to the final product during the factory tour, within minutes all the right people were around the piece of equipment to discuss the changes……..by the time we had finished lunch in the owners private dining room on site drawings were waiting for us to sign off…..in Aus no chance of having it all sorted in 2 hours.

I was also impressed with they way they looked after their factory workers……they provided accommodation onsite and 3 meals a day. Sure only a small factory l, from memory 500,000m2 under roof and a few hundred employees.

Originally Posted by W&KO

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I was also impressed with they way they looked after their factory workers……they provided accommodation onsite and 3 meals a day. Sure only a small factory l, from memory 500,000m2 under roof and a few hundred employees.

Most of those worker's will be migrants from the countryside and if they or the factory can't or won't pay for their children's schooling in the city, they have to stay back at farm so to speak, this has lead to about 60 million "orphans" left (abandoned) to be cared for by grandparents, elder siblings, etc. An NGO said about a third end up with psychological, drug, crime problems, IIRC. There is lot more to a "supply chain" than just the goods that come out of a factory!

Left-behind children in China - Wikipedia

China's migrant worker crisis and the children that are left behind (sbs.com.au)